zam has posted a blog of his experience on installing adempiere on centos http://software.krimnet.com/open-source/how-to-install-adempiere-linux-centos-5.htm
what we need is to reduce all those lines into : yum install adempiere or apt-get install adempiere On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA <[email protected]>wrote: > I was quite intimate with UNIX in the late nineties and later Linux. People > say the same thing about "real" OS. That "real" OS is complex and > downplaying that complexity will lead you to DOOOOM!! (followed by an evil > laugh MUHAHAHA!!!) . And yet, Mark Shuttleworth proves that it does not > have to be all complex all the time. In some use cases, it shoud/can be > simple for some use cases. > > And thus, advance R&D need to be done on what can be simplified, what can > not. How to simplify. Is simplicity really safe etc. etc. and thus the > justification for the Center > > > Azrul Sensei > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> ERP itself is never "simplicity" as in a next->next->next->wizard setup. >> "ERP for the rest of us" is just downplaying the complexity of what it >> really is. >> Making it easy will just end up having it pre-configured with a lot of >> settings that would not be usable for the next client. As for license >> pricing and services, >> yeah that one should be as simple as possible. >> >> marcus. >> >> >> Boh Yap wrote: >> >> hi Red1 >> >> I've always supported you, and I've also been yr devil's advocate. >> >> I agree with Azrul, its 'simplicity' that sells. Adempiere as it is >> now is too complex, granted that ERP is complex, but Mat Din Sdn Bhd >> just needs soemthng that works without having to spend 3 mths training >> and 6 mths implementation. >> >> I one-click install CD is required, and due to the very wide usage of >> ERP, perhaps that install CD should prompt the user with a few >> questions - then create the config that he needs. Perhaps we can use a >> few 'templates' for different industry and/or business types/profiles. >> ie: templates for: >> >> 1. single outlet retail shop - your regular mom-pop grecery store with a POS >> 2. multi-outlet retail shop with centralised/distributed store. >> 3. manufacturer, that needs te usual pls supply-chain, MRP >> 4. export manf. that needs all of above + foreign currency accounting >> 5. some gov organisation.... >> .... >> and the list goes on. >> >> Notice what is needed is: >> >> - Market knowledge - which of the above profiles are most in demand >> (or most profitable - in terms of revenue, startgic importance etc...) >> >> - Domain knowledge - someone who knows enough about each of those >> insdustry from the biz. perspective. >> >> - Technical knowhow - to develop/code the 'smart configurator'. >> Or maybe make these into plugin modules so different ppl can >> contribute 'configurators' for different business types, perhaps even >> 'sell, make money' from licensing these!! >> >> Now bundle Adempiere, together with a bunch of 'smart configurators' >> on a CD and I'm sure it'll be a success. Also copy Canonical, by >> sending a CD to anyone who emails in for one.... >> >> Also may set up a "Configurator App Store" like an iPhone store, and >> let others contribute and sell... of course there will be offers for >> paid consultancy etc.... >> >> (my take on OSS is like IKEA furniture, it comes in a flat box with >> "some assembly required", you have to fiddle with it to assemble it. >> If you can't or are too lazy to read the instructions and do it >> yourself, then you can pay someone to do it for you, but unfortunately >> Msian's are too lazy and too ignorant... don't understand the concept >> of RTFM, for OSS... no?) >> >> >> 2 Questions to yr proposal... >> >> 1. Why restrict it to ERP? >> If anything, healthcare is even more important! As per my presentation >> >> "FOSS + Healthcare = lives" ... its about saving lives. >> >> And we as Masians have a shot at this... I'll tell you why when we >> meet... >> >> And from a politcal and social responsibility POV, has a better chance of >> getting funding. >> >> 2. Can't really claim Adempiere as a Msian product right? >> How many Msian developers in there? ...;-) >> ...hence M'sian gift to the world? >> (maybe need another branding, like Ubuntu & Linux? - MyDempiere & >> Adempiere ;-) >> >> As I've always said and Azrul has pointed out, Msia needs more >> technical ppl, >> hard-core coders, who can develop real kick-ass applications. >> But sadly, few wanna be coders... even in the MyGOSSCON BOF, >> not many attended the 'real technical' BOF sessions! by us Python guys >> ;-) >> >> (or because they were not into Python and are PHP, Java... c'mon get over >> the language issues, its the core concepts, that count.) >> >> And I'll definitely say, its not easy being a programmer, you need >> a fair level >> of intelligence, hard-work and creativity. Oh, I think M'sians are >> smart enough, >> at least to avoid being a programmer! (sic) >> >> And so long as this situation remains, we'll be 2nd class citizens >> in the internet world, we are only consumers, we'll never be creators >> of technology. And those of us who are in the programming craft, as >> Azrul sez, will eventually find work outside of M'sia, (although, with >> the internet, we don't have to leave, but may continue to live here... >> ;-) >> >> (this has always been my rant.. Msians must develop the skills... but >> are too afraid to do so.) >> >> As Alan Kay (inventor of the GUI, concept of notebook, Smalltalk.. and >> a super geek) says: >> >> "In the future if someone doesn't know how to use a computer, it will >> be like being illiterate, the world of knowledge will be shut off from >> him. But if you he does not know how to program, its like he does not >> know how to write, he will not be able to create..." >> >> He said this in the early-mid 80's, and its this quote that got me >> back into being a programmer after I had been a 'manager' for a while. >> ;-) >> >> >> ..there, did my rant prevent 2012 from massive volcanic eruptions, and >> an cataclysmic asteroid colision? >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM, red1 <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Azrul, thanks for the Ubuntu proof. In a way before Mark Shuttleworth throw >> in some dimes into the Linux pot, it was a world devoid of Ubuntu. Imagine >> that IBM was a heavy investor of Linux but where did the money or focus go? >> Of course into heavy server-side that it holds dearly close to its money >> chest but not for the simple user in the street. >> >> Thus it proves very clearly that a single 1 shot can do wonders, what IF the >> same happens with ADempiere? If a millionaire just say, 'heck, here is some >> dimes' to us. >> >> In fact ADempiere enjoys that in some way. Kai Schaeffer who was here on >> MDec's ticket was such millionaire businessman who donated to host ADempiere >> Berlin Conferences. He also contributed the Windows Installer where its >> truly next, next, finish for us. He forms the ADempiere Deutschland e.V when >> i asked him to. >> >> As for here in Malaysia, thank Allah that there is hope. I am confident the >> few unis taking their grants and backing me (thus the CREATE idea is >> actually for them). I have a good offer now, but i am not desperate.. just a >> few more slides and i shall nail it. Your name is in it too! :) >> >> On your supportive pitch to MDec, thanks alot. I was trying to give some >> merdeka joy to them. It is this extra mile or 14 miles to be exact to reach >> the Kuang farm! >> >> I am not a good salesman. If there is some way i can tell MDec to tell the >> PM that MDec has done too much. It only has to change one small wire and >> THIS IS IT! >> >> If this gets to the PM it is not nice as it can be seen as potong jalan. I >> have retired from politics. I just want to bring up my country. Period. >> >> Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote: >> >> One market we should also focus on is the small time organization market >> (note it doesn't have to be SMEs, it could be your Persatuan Pekebun Kecil >> whatever somewhere). I really hope Adempiere could follow the ubuntu model. >> Call it "The ERP for the rest of us". >> >> 1) Single CD + a few clicks install >> 2) Dead simple to use >> 3) Integrated with online services (for example, for organizations, a link >> to ROS, for SME, maybe to LHDN etc.) >> 4) Mobile components >> 5) Dead simple addons - ala Android Marketplace >> >> Then, just like Ubuntu skyrocketed Linux from the backwaters of OSS, can >> Adempiere make most Malaysian realize the importance of an ERP. >> >> And thus the Center Red1 proposes. >> >> And frankly, just like Canonical has fulltime employees, so should the >> Center. Volunteers have done wonders for Adempiere, imagine what people can >> put in if they focus 100% of their working energy on it. >> >> >> This is a once in a lifetime oppurtunity for MDeC*. I, as an individual, do >> not necessarily need this center. I can earn my living, work my way the >> usual way and have a happy life and family. Worst case scenario, I just move >> out of this country (and lately I've been thinking more and more about doing >> just this) and I'm sure any talented Malaysian dev. out there are in the >> same situation. MDeC, please listen... and I'll try to be as polite as >> possible, we, as developers can survive well enough if Red1's center is not >> created. We'll find jobs, we'll raise our family and earn enough to pay for >> a vacation once in a while. We do not need the center per se, but Malaysia, >> as a country, and MDeC as the caretaker of the country's ICT, SOOO DO NEED >> IT. If not, 100 years from now, in our history books, MDeC would probably be >> just a footnote somewhere instead of a whole chapter if this center is not >> set up. Frankly, I'll be patient and see if MDeC takes the challenge that >> Red1 proposed, but this is probably the final straw. If not, a whole bunch >> of us are probably would leave the Malaysian OSS scene and probably the >> county. >> >> *If you are an MDeC employee, please do not think of my rant as an attack on >> you personally. I do think that people in MDeC are also individuals who >> choose to work with MDeC when they can pour their talent somewhere else. >> Heck, I know a few good people in MDeC who were courted by oversea companies >> and yet they decline the offer for the love of the country. If anything, >> they are more into it then us developers. I believe that people in MDeC are >> heroes but some of the policies are real time-wasters. >> >> Azrul Sensei >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:32 PM, red1 <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> After a short struggle this year long, i can now smile that at least few >> people can now come up to me and say, >> >> "Mr. Redhuan. I finally am enlightened of what the hell you been >> screaming about. FOSS is not about the code. It is about branding in a >> blue ocean." >> >> Inspired by such new taliban, I spent these 2 days writing up a simple >> plan for us to consider as Malaysia's Gift to the >> world.http://www.red1.org/MSC8.pdf >> >> It is exported from AppleMac Keynote (manyak dasyot the animation, so if >> you really wana see the movie, belanja me free teh tarik). >> >> So please discuss or vote for acceptance and make it our key flagship. >> Whether it become reality or not we leave to Allah. Our tugas is done. >> >> WARNING: If you do not vote or counter then your tugas to >> Allah/Karma/Tao/Money is not done. In a few years its 2012, possibly a >> magnetic pole shift, sending chaos and 90% world population to alam >> lain. 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