hank williams wrote: > Ok, well, then we should stop the red5 project, because I am *sure* > that MM doesnt like it. If they did, then no reverse engineering > would be necessary. They would have already provided the protocol > specs (years ago). The fact is they charge $4500 for a 10mps server > that can serve mayber 30-40 quality streams at one time. They seek > hundreds of thousands of dollars in licensing fees from large scale > customers. No sane software company would wish for a free alternative > to this, and thus far from a business perspective they have not in any > way signaled that they would like for there to be a free alternative > out there.
Good point, however by the same token maybe it's *because* Macromedia wish to keep charging a higher price for FMS that they will stand by and let Red5 see the light of day without a fight. Large scale customers /will/ purchase Macromedia's product - no matter how good Red5 is in production. Also, Macromedia have plenty of ammunition to raise FMS above Red5. For example, the Red5 team has already categorically stated they will /not/ deal with codecs in any way whatsoever. Which means FMS can introduce all kinds of stuff like transcoding, interoperatbility with /other/ media servers and screen sharing. All stuff that Red5 will not do. Red5 will always be FMS' b*tch ;-) > This may be true. But again, I think a primary motivation (though not > the only motivation) for red5 is the *outrageous* pricing model of > fcs/fms. I dont think the red5 guys are going "gee if MM feels > threatened maybe we shoulnt do this because they might not like us". I > suspect strongly that MM will feel that red5 reduces revenue. Does > this mean that the red5 guys are or arent concerned with the "plight" > of adobe/macromedia, a 10+ billion dollar company? I have to agree on that point. The primary motivation for Red5 was more than likely the pricing model for FMS, but my points above still stand. Red5 is for the people who wouldn't have bought FMS in the first place. As stated by both Luke Hubbard and John Grden; Red5 is a stepping stone for those to whom FMS is inaccessible. Another illustration of the partnership that the open source community is asking Macromedia for. > As I said, whether it is purposeful or not, I think it is FUD, and I > think it is problematic. OK, you can have have that one .. it may be FUD without intent. I wouldn't say it was problematic though, or we would not be having these discussions. I wonder if you would have otherwise involved yourself in the discussion had it not got this far :) As you said yourself, it's better that these discussions come sooner, rather than later :) > Legal issues like this are life and death. I dont think there is any > way to read too much into it. I judge by the act without regard to the > underlying motive. If you shoot me, I dont care whether you really > meant to hit some other guy. You still shot me. Oh, you misunderstand me. I meant that I think you are reading too much into the reasons Mike said what he said - not the legal issues themselves :) - IE _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
