Totally agree Keith. I have also received an email from Philippe offlist and
I will now definitely give Flashdevelop a test run. Looking forward to it -
I must be mad ;-)

Stefan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Peters
> Sent: 27 December 2005 20:38
> To: 'Open Source Flash Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [osflash] FlashDevelop: Project build and -mx parameter
> 
> Stefan,
> I totally hear and understand you. I was really excited about 
> MTASC and FLAMES a while back, but it seemed I spent more 
> time tweaking the system than I did actual development on 
> projects. Well, maybe not "more time", but the ratio was not 
> good enough. I'm back to mostly using the Flash IDE as a 
> compiler. But FlashDevelop has given me hope for MTASC. If 
> they get the -mx param into the project build, it might work 
> out well for me.
> 
> Keith 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan Richter
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
> > To: 'Open Source Flash Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [osflash] FlashDevelop: Project build and -mx parameter
> > 
> > Maybe I will need to revisit some of the Osflash tools (as 
> I am sure 
> > they have improved greatly) but my experience a few months 
> ago using 
> > Eclipse and MTASC (and Flashout) was that (after a painful setup 
> > process which took me through some obscure update routines) 
> I tried to 
> > compile an ARP based project (which compiled fine in the 
> IDE) and it 
> > threw a gazillion errors, some of which where related to the mx 
> > packages.
> > Frankly I am not that much of a pro that I worry about 'errors' in 
> > Macromedia's code. Their component framework works for me 
> (most of the 
> > time) and I have not got the skills nor the time to rewrite 
> or fix it.
> > 
> > I didn't have time to dig deeper so I compiled using Flash 
> even though 
> > I would prefer using MTASC as it would be a lot quicker.
> > I am not saying that this is a big deal (and for most 
> people here it 
> > isn't as you seem to tweak everything until it works) but I would 
> > expect that many developers would drop some of the open 
> source tools 
> > (for the time being at
> > least) simply because they 'appear' to prevent a working app from 
> > compiling.
> > 
> > If I need to work on another machine tomorrow and it has Flash 
> > installed then I want to be able to check out my project 
> and work on 
> > it, no matter what tools I have used on my office PC. Right 
> now I am 
> > not sure I could do that using an open source setup. If I am wrong 
> > then please tell me so and I will reinstall MTASC and Flashdevelop 
> > first thing tomorrow morning.
> > 
> > I don't want to sound too harsh but having to do any kind of 
> > hoop-jumping exercise just because I have used the MM 
> components in my 
> > existing project then that isn't a very good workflow 
> (especially so 
> > if you are new to open source flash) and it is an area that 
> needs to 
> > be improved.
> > 
> > Remember this comes from someone who has spent 2 days until 
> FAME was 
> > fully up and running (granted, at the time there wasn't much 
> > documentation around so it would be quicker now) so you can't say I 
> > haven't tried...
> > 
> > Stefan
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Peters
> > > Sent: 27 December 2005 18:08
> > > To: 'Open Source Flash Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [osflash] FlashDevelop: Project build and 
> -mx parameter
> > > 
> > > That makes sense, theoretically. I assume the patch only
> > adds types,
> > > fixes local var issues, etc. per definition of
> > > refactoring: improving the internal structure of the code without 
> > > changing the external behavior.
> > > Still makes me wary though.
> > > 
> > > Keith
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo
> > de Moraes
> > > > Serpa
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:04 AM
> > > > To: Open Source Flash Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [osflash] FlashDevelop: Project build and
> > -mx parameter
> > > > 
> > > > I may be wrong, but I don´t see any big differences on yours 
> > > > application´s code when you use the patched classes as
> > the patch is
> > > > only intended to make them compile with MTASC.
> > > 
> > > 
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