Hello OS Flashers, I've been lurking for a bit since attending FlashForward 2006 last month (my first one), mostly reading and digesting since most of everything I see here is new to me.
First of all my thanks to everyone who contributes their time to every project; it was my inspiration from the event (bla bla like everyone else's I'm sure) to improve skillset and level and give back as so many of the presenters did at the event. Just to throw my $.02 on RIAForge, it does not seem like a replacement for any other community since there is really no Adobe-specific community out there as far as I know. I for one am a big fan of Adobe and the products they produce and that was before the merger; now for sure Adobe is my favorite company, especially when PSD import comes out in Flash 9 and eventually I see After Effects and Flex as a means to develop incredible applications with better motion graphics effects without using the Flash IDE at all (does anyone here even use the Flash IDE? :) ). I am only posting this as I checked out RIAForge and they have some pretty cool Flex stuff posted, some by Adobe, and there is a Photoshop section for presumably open-source photoshop plug-ins and filters, so it is much broader in its scope and maybe they want to see a "look what people can do with Adobe's products" community? It may even serve to benefit the existing communities for people who may know about Adobe but be new to open source, if they see OS Flash projects on RIAForge they may be compelled/inspired to come here from there, and contribute. I for one never heard of OSFlash before I went to FlashForward and I am sure not to be the only one, however the whole concept drew my interest to come and check it out. Certainly having all of the existing projects at least listed there and linked back to OSFlash can only be beneficial, without having to "move over there"? Just my thoughts, David Khaykin -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric Muller Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:22 AM To: Open Source Flash Mailing List Subject: Re: [osflash] RIAForge there are people here for money, others for community, and some for technicity none is the same really, adobe is a quoted company, making money, paying people, blabla they cannot come with revolutionary ideas they coud not come up with sourceforge, or osflash, or any open source initiative it will always be stronger than them, but let's accept they are trying something ... but I don't like these 'Bill Gates' strategies, where you observe something interesting and try on taking all the momentum from it to another place ... such naive ideas give me chills ... be prepared .... Cedric > <rant> > To me it looks like Adobe doesn't have a real community strategy. From > a company like Adobe i would expect to formulate and publish a > strategic goal and then to do everything to achieve it. Instead of > this, Adobe people are suggesting to use Adobe forums and mailing > lists instead of flexcoders, or are creating sites like RIAForge > instead of supporting osflash. I think, community is a very fragile > thing. You can't just "move" it from one place to another. It builds > arround people. So if you want to move community, you have to move > (read support) people maybe? > </rant> > > I like the cheap design of RIAForge though :) > Cheers, > Ralf. > > > On 10/19/06, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Just because we may have registered the domain name, does not mean we >> own the site. Although, maybe we do. (I don't really know). >> >> mike chambers >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Tim Scollick wrote: >> >>> It sure looks like Adobe owns it, Mike! >>> >>> http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=riaforge.com >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On 10/18/06, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for >>> not responding to this earlier, I just found out about this >>> also. >>> >>> From what I understand, this isnt meant to be a competitor to >>> OSFlash (if anything, it is meant to compliment it). >>> >>> Ben Forta (who has been working on this) sent me this description: >>> >>> -- >>> I just wanted to make it very clear that RIAForge is not intended to >>> compete with osflash or any other similar projects. We built the >>> site >>> to be both house a community around Adobe products, and also to act >>> as a consolidated list of all sorts of projects, both local and not. >>> When projects are defined on RIAForge they can be local, or they can >>> link to external sites and projects. Projects can opt to use >>> specific >>> features (project blog, project forum, project bug tracker, project >>> subversion store) regardless of whether the project is local or not, >>> or can simply be a listing with a link to external projects. >>> -- >>> >>> As far as who owns it, I am not sure. We (Adobe) don't run it, >>> although I believe we have provided some help. Some Adobe people >>> (particular Ben and Mike Potter) might help out running the site. >>> >>> Anyways, hope that clears it not. Sorry for all of the confusion. >>> >>> mike chambers >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Aral Balkan wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like Adobe's got their own OSFlash alternative for the >>>> various >>>> Adobe products: >>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/10/18/Announcing- >>>> RIAForge >>>> >>>> Aral >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osflash mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osflash mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osflash mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> osflash mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >> > > > -- > Ralf Bokelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Flex & Flash Consultant based in Cologne/Germany > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
