but do you mean OSFlash is *just* a repository ? (because RIAForge is  
a repository right now)
what about the community thing ? mailing lists, known people,  
confidence in projects, support ?
I am always being too negative (I know)....

> I dont think there is any need to be so defensive.
>
> There is nothing wrong with adobe creating such a website for their
> line of products. OSFlash doesnt "own" the concept of open source
> flash related products. More importantly it certainly doesnt own open
> source for the whole family of adobe products.
>
> Its funny. To me open source is about being **OPEN**. From some of
> this discussion you would think OSFlash was a profit making company
> competing with other open source companies where, instead I think the
> real idea is foster the idea of open source in whatever way is
> possible.
>
> Oh, and who cares what Mike Chambers knew or didnt know. It doesnt
> make this any better or worse. And the fact that someone in a big
> company didnt know what another person was doing hardly qualifies as
> err... funny. Its pretty normal.
>
> I think, so far, there is nothing bad about their new site, and
> potentially there lots of good could come of it.
>
>
> On 10/19/06, Ralf Bokelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> <rant>
>> To me it looks like Adobe doesn't have a real community strategy.  
>> From
>> a company like Adobe i would expect to formulate and publish a
>> strategic goal and then to do everything to achieve it. Instead of
>> this, Adobe people are suggesting to use Adobe forums and mailing
>> lists instead of flexcoders, or are creating sites like RIAForge
>> instead of supporting osflash.   I think, community is a very fragile
>> thing. You can't just "move" it from one place to another.  It builds
>> arround people.  So if you want to move community, you have to move
>> (read support) people maybe?
>> </rant>
>>
>> I like the cheap design of RIAForge though :)
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf.
>>
>>
>> On 10/19/06, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Just because we may have registered the domain name, does not  
>>> mean we
>>> own the site. Although, maybe we do. (I don't really know).
>>>
>>> mike chambers
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Tim Scollick wrote:
>>>
>>>> It sure looks like Adobe owns it, Mike!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=riaforge.com
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> On 10/18/06, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for
>>>> not responding to this earlier, I just found out about this
>>>> also.
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand, this isnt meant to be a competitor to
>>>> OSFlash (if anything, it is meant to compliment it).
>>>>
>>>> Ben Forta (who has been working on this) sent me this description:
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> I just wanted to make it very clear that RIAForge is not  
>>>> intended to
>>>> compete with osflash or any other similar projects. We built the  
>>>> site
>>>> to be both house a community around Adobe products, and also to act
>>>> as a consolidated list of all sorts of projects, both local and  
>>>> not.
>>>> When projects are defined on RIAForge they can be local, or they  
>>>> can
>>>> link to external sites and projects. Projects can opt to use  
>>>> specific
>>>> features (project blog, project forum, project bug tracker, project
>>>> subversion store) regardless of whether the project is local or  
>>>> not,
>>>> or can simply be a listing with a link to external projects.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> As far as who owns it, I am not sure. We (Adobe) don't run it,
>>>> although I believe we have provided some help. Some Adobe people
>>>> (particular Ben and Mike Potter) might help out running the site.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, hope that clears it not. Sorry for all of the confusion.
>>>>
>>>> mike chambers
>>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Aral Balkan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like Adobe's got their own OSFlash alternative for the  
>>>>> various
>>>>> Adobe products:
>>>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/10/18/Announcing- 
>>>>> RIAForge
>>>>>
>>>>> Aral
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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>> Flex & Flash Consultant based in Cologne/Germany
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