Why is every discussion about language / compilers / ide ends up a bit heated?
To start Adobe is making a great product and I think most of us love it. If not, just use ajax or whatsoever... No one says you HAVE to use it. That being said it doesn't mean there is not room for improvement. All improvements Nicholas added to Haxe are great and I love to see them in some form in actionscript as well sometime. Arguing they (Adobe) are so damn slow in developing the language is not fair in my opnion and is not really true. At least if you compare it to the only other wide adopted client side alternative: Javascript / Ajax. When was the latest update to javascript in the browsers? Well ok true, that depends on the browser I guess, but change is overall way slower than the flash plugin. Adobe are making efforts to open source a lot of stuff which is really great and I personally think they can take as long as they want to do it. If they take long it would harm their own business though, so it wouldn't be smart... (Silverlight will push innovation speed which is nice for us) And if the community can help innovating the open source part off the flash / flex software off course adobe would be served. But they are pulling the strings and that's fine by me. If they however would make rotten choices in the future then none tells me to stick with them. But I have a feeling flash is more alive than ever, and it will be for some time to come :) Furthermore it is said that they don't have to adhere to standards. I disagree here as I think I see the direction they are heading. Giving away tamarin to mozilla has a lot to do with it. I believe that a complete compatible ecma engine used in the flash plugin as on the browser makes a strong team. Still we have exploder vs standards complinant browsers, but if the engine is the same in flash plugin and firefox that would mean one dialect less to learn. Also, if they would have abandoned the standards, giving a non standards engine to mozilla is making no sense as they wouldn't use it, right? Firefox is all about standards.... So I really think that adobe is making careful choices. Teaming up with mozilla (against the Microsoft mess ?) is a good strategic choice in my opinion. Remember they are making the the development team of tamarin way bigger with this action!!! OK Nicholas, give it to me! Haxe probably gives one for all, right? One language for all incompatible ecma engines? ;-) I'm sorry I didn't try it (as I heard) powerful language yet but im into flex a lot, so sticking with as3 seems the way to go for now ... Damn that was the longest mail I ever posted to a mailinglist! Sorry about that... Take care, Arnoud (who is not working for Adobe :)) _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
