perfect, florian! for now anyway. <grin> m
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://ManorNeighbors.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM, fischer florian <[email protected]>wrote: > It seems. > it seems order while steadily renewing order > it seems equilibrium while oscillating between different levels > it seems symetric while it becomes asymetric in the same moment > it seems dance while dancing > it seems standing in quietness while full of inner vibration > it is called sleep while steadily breathing > it seems driving straight while steadily correcting the direction > it seems to be a system while it is connected and influenced endless > it seems to be chaotic while it is cosmic > it seems to emerge within a sudden while it developed itself since long > time > > In the words of beloved late Ralph Copleman »Everything is moving« > That is: Everything is open, every process is open, every system is open. > > My two cents. > Florian > > > Am 19.09.2011 um 19:45 schrieb John Watkins: > > Great questions, Michael! > > I think when I am feeling optimistic (most of the time) I see OST as > creating one of those "far from equilibrium states" that Prigogine and > Stengers talk about as enabling new orders to emerge; however, in less > sanguine times, I could also imagine OST as just a "subsystem fluctuation" > enabling larger system stability. But I think that most of our larger > systems these days are exhibiting something like either disequilibrium or > bifurcation points, so maybe OST is able to restructure the system > architecture so fundamentally that a new order could emerge. Weick talks > about that restructuring of the system architecture in order to change the > "flows" of energy in the system. I think Bateson referred to one kind of > larger system disequilibrium as an "uptight system," where at least one of > the "variables" is "pinned" at its upper or lower limits of its range of > flexibility, resulting in that rigidity rippling through the whole system. > Rigid systems change more easily, but not usually in a very pretty way: > chaotic bursts, turbulence, tumbling into chaos, new orders emerging > spontaneously... > > John > > On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Michael Herman wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >
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