Hello Thomas, "Consensus by veto" means anything that is not vetoed is treated as consensus. The occupy movement made decisions this way. People could give several hand signals to indicate their sentiment when someone else was talking without having to talk over them. Here's a list on Wikipedia of Occupy movement's and signals <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_movement_hand_signals>.
You'll see a hand signal for "hard block" which means the listener is hearing something morally objectionable (i.e. they are vetoing it). By defining consensus as "Not morally objectionable" (i.e. not vetoed) the Occupy Movement was able to approve more member actions/initiatives than if they went with "universally agreed upon" as their definition of consensus, because their members were eclectic and unlikely to agree 100% on everything. I witnessed that OccupyDC's Facilitation Committee would change the operational definition of consensus as the months went by so that even 1 or 2 vetoes were still seen as consensus when they wanted to have fewer roadblocks from their own members. So the veto number is variable as a facilitation technique. -- Lucas Cioffi Co-Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/> Charlottesville, VA 917-528-1831 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks John, great. I read your notes and this one raised a question: > > "for necessary decisions (e.g. directing group resources), 'consensus' by > veto is better than democratic decision-making by majority vote" > > What do you/the book mean by "consensus by veto" here? > > Thomas > > > On Oct 16, 2014, at 3:51 AM, John Baxter via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Wave Riders > > I've just finished reading Swarmwise, the tactical manual for organising > community like a Pirate (i.e. Sweden's Pirate Party). > > Open Space methods are threaded through it, both overtly and implicitly. > I thought it was an excellent vindication of the hunch that Open Space can > be applied in very specific ways to processes much bigger than single > events. > > I did have an initial reaction to how strong the influence of the > individual leader-champion is. But I came to the conclusion that sort of > leadership fits the given objectives, and is no different than the sponsor > setting the topic in OST. > So a heads up, you may have the same averse reaction to ego-centric > language that I did... but please forgive it in order to see the wisdom > within. > > Recommended reading for all Wave Riders: Swarmwise > <http://falkvinge.net/2013/02/14/swarmwise-the-tactical-manual-to-changing-the-world-chapter-one/> > . > > Also if of interest, my notes > <http://www.evernote.com/shard/s133/sh/265720ee-aa87-4377-9508-d191d48a966a/3ad0177a6c8434e45420dba77f54ff61> > (*not a permalink*) > > Cheers > > *John Baxter* > *CoCreate Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy* > CoCreateADL.com <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> | > jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/> > 0405 447 829 > | > @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >
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