i shared this with tricia the other day. maybe it fits here: in explaining the buddhist concept of emptiness, mingyur rinpoche (tibetan teacher) points out that they're not talking about nothingness or the void...
while the buddha did teach that the nature of the mind -- in fact, the nature of all phenomena -- is *emptiness*, he didnt' mean that their nature was truly *empty, *like a vacuum. He said it was empti*ness, *which in the tibetan language is made up of two words: *tongpa-nyi. *the word *tongpa* means "empty," but only in the sense of something beyond our ability to perceive with our senses and our capacity to conceptualize. maybe a better translation would be "inconceivable" or "unnamable." the word *nyi* , meanwhile, doesn't have any particular meaning in everyday tibetan conversation. but when added to another word it conveys a sense of "possibility" -- a sense that anything can arise, anything can happen. so when buddhists talk about *emptiness, *we don't mean nothingness, but rather an unlimited potential for anything to appear, change, or disappear. sounds like open space to me. anything can happen. nothing is necessary. and to your last question, daniel, for what it's worth: for me, the law of two feet has always seemed like the reciprocal of the principles, especially whenever/whatever/when it's over. the latter point to the vastness of everything/everytime that's possible, and remind us we can't control it. the law of two feet reminds us to practice within that vastness, to pay attention and keep moving. -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Karl, > > What I am really, really interested in doing with others here is exploring > the "all open space all the time" idea. > > Harrison brings this concept up quite a lot, most recently in the video > interview he posted just this week. > > The "Law of 2 Feet" and the "Whatever happens" principle as they pertain > to "all open space all the time" are 2 items of particularly keen interest. > > Daniel > > > > On 11/11/14 3:19 PM, Royle, Karl wrote: > > Are you on drugs Daniel? :-) > > Sent by iPhone > Karl Royle > Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development > > Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing > University of Wolverhampton > 01902323006 > 07815416698 > @karlroyle. On Twitter > Karlr61 Skype > Www.academia.edu/karlroyle > > On 11 Nov 2014, at 20:18, "Daniel Mezick via OSList" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > yes, > > According to the idea, "intent=result", my intent in posting does have > "something to do with" eliciting a response from you, Michael. (And Anna > Marie. And Harrison. So far...) > > Likewise, I am getting what I want, or: at least what my unconscious > wants. > > As a result of this thread, I'm planning to actively play with: > > > - dispassionate passion; > - passionate dispassion; > - irresponsible responsibility, and > - responsible irresponsibility. > > > Daniel > > > On 11/11/14 2:57 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote: > > Dear Harrison, > > as for #2 my take is that there is no such thing as "the" passionate and > responsible and neither such thing as "the" dispassionate and > irresponsible. At least I have never seen such critters in my os-life. > > And appart from that there are all kinds of realities. Which probably > could also result in seeing "passionate" und "dispassionate" etc. > > And, if I as facilitator get into categorizing folks or doing other > distracting stuff (for myself), I am down the road of disaster having lost > the capacity for being "completely present and utterly invisible". > > However, I have heard from sponsors and facilitators that they observed > folks in open space as very responsible and very passionate and were > amazed... they had always seen those as grey mice in "reality". > > In case we all are already in open space, which I suspect is exactly the > case, are we all scared? > > Looking at the folks in the GDR, definitely in open space even though it > appeared close to shut down, for some reason and in some fashion did gather > and act in a way that hardly anybody, least they themselves and even less > those in "power" had thought possible. > > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > On 11.11.2014 20:23, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: > > To #1 I might say... I have no idea whether you will get what you want. > But I’m absolutely sure that you will never find it if you don’t look. > Then again, you may find something better along the way. > > As for #2... That one is definitely above my pay grade. > > Harrison > > Winter Address > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > 301-365-2093 > > Summer Address > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. > > Camden, ME 04843 > > 207-763-3261 > > Websites > > www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com> > > www.ho-image.com > > OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives > of OSLIST Go > to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf > Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:19 AM > *To:* Harrison Owen; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Opening Space > > Hi Harrison, > > Here is where I am...been thinking about this: > > "Everyone's already IN open space, they're just scared of it." > > So here goes: > > 1. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that environ, then, > Lawof2Feet applies. "Go somewhere you can get what you say you want: to > contribute and/or learn. Since it's all open space all the time, that > law is active all the time, if I do not like the situation, off I go, > seeking what I say I want. Or at least what my unconscious wants. > > This raises my question: "does everyone get want they want in the long > run?" > > 2. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that environ, then, > "Whatever happens is the only thing that could have." There are results; > the passionate and responsible help make "the only thing". Likewise the > dispassionate and irresponsible help make "the only thing." Or do they? > Both groups act on their intent and "the only thing that could have" > ensues...? > > This raises my question: "do intentions=results and vice versa?" > > Daniel > > On 11/11/14 9:58 AM, Harrison Owen wrote: > > Dan -- not quite sure where you are going, but if I had an answer > it would go something like this: “Sometimes... It all depends.” > > Harrison > > Winter Address > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > 301-365-2093 > > Summer Address > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. > > Camden, ME 04843 > > 207-763-3261 > > Websites > > www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com> > > www.ho-image.com > > OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the > archives of OSLIST Go > to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList > *Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2014 9:34 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Opening Space > > Yo Harrison, > > Couple questions: > > 1. Does everyone get what they want, in the long run? > 2. Do intentions = results ...and vice versa? > > > Daniel > > On 11/10/14 8:49 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: > > It might seem like a pure ego trip, and if so – please forgive. > But I do think there might be something here. 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