Hello Daniel

thanks for sharing this concept of emptiness….

yes, emptiness is not nothingness…
it is still something 
but that something is perhaps
beyond what we could ever imagine
and we need the space to allow that emptiness to be
for the something else's to come into being…

cheers,

carms 
 
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Happiness is not a consequence of things that happen. 
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 From: Michael Herman via OSList <[email protected]>
To: Daniel Mezick <[email protected]>; World wide Open Space Technology email 
list <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2014, 5:47
Subject: Re: [OSList] Opening Space
 


i shared this with tricia the other day.  maybe it fits here:

in explaining the buddhist concept of emptiness, mingyur rinpoche (tibetan 
teacher) points out that they're not talking about nothingness or the void...

>
>while the buddha did teach that the nature of the mind -- in fact, the nature 
>of all phenomena -- is emptiness, he didnt' mean that their nature was truly 
>empty, like a vacuum.  He said it was emptiness, which in the tibetan language 
>is made up of two words: tongpa-nyi. the word tongpa means "empty," but only 
>in the sense of something beyond our ability to perceive with our senses and 
>our capacity to conceptualize.  maybe a better translation would be 
>"inconceivable" or "unnamable."  the word nyi , meanwhile, doesn't have any 
>particular meaning in everyday tibetan conversation.  but when added to 
>another word it conveys a sense of "possibility" -- a sense that anything can 
>arise, anything can happen.  so when buddhists talk about emptiness, we don't 
>mean nothingness, but rather an unlimited potential for anything to appear, 
>change, or disappear.
>
>sounds like open space to me.  anything can happen.  nothing is necessary.  

and to your last question, daniel, for what it's worth:  for me, the law of two 
feet has always seemed like the reciprocal of the principles, especially 
whenever/whatever/when it's over.  the latter point to the vastness of 
everything/everytime that's possible, and remind us we can't control it.  the 
law of two feet reminds us to practice within that vastness, to pay attention 
and keep moving.






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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>
>Hi Karl,
>
>What I am really, really interested in doing with others here is
    exploring the "all open space all the time" idea.
>
>Harrison brings this concept up quite a lot, most recently in the
    video interview he posted just this week. 
>
>The "Law of 2 Feet" and the "Whatever happens" principle as they
    pertain to "all open space all the time" are 2 items of particularly
    keen interest. 
>
>Daniel
>
>
>
>
>On 11/11/14 3:19 PM, Royle, Karl wrote:
>
>Are you on drugs Daniel? :-) 
>>
>>
>>Sent by iPhone
Karl Royle 
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>>
>>On 11 Nov 2014, at 20:18, "Daniel Mezick via OSList" 
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>yes,
>>>
>>>According to the idea, "intent=result", my intent in posting
          does have "something to do with" eliciting a response from
          you, Michael. (And Anna Marie. And Harrison. So far...)
>>>
>>>Likewise, I am getting what I want, or: at least what my
          unconscious wants. 
>>>
>>>As a result of this thread, I'm planning to actively play
          with: 
>>>
>>>
>>>     * dispassionate passion; 
>>>     * passionate dispassion; 
>>>     * irresponsible responsibility, and 
>>>     * responsible irresponsibility. 
>>>Daniel 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 11/11/14 2:57 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear Harrison, 
>>>>
>>>>as for #2 my take is that there is no such thing as "the"
            passionate and responsible and neither such thing as "the"
            dispassionate and irresponsible. At least I have never seen
            such critters in my os-life. 
>>>>
>>>>And appart from that there are all kinds of realities. Which
            probably could also result in seeing "passionate" und
            "dispassionate" etc. 
>>>>
>>>>And, if I as facilitator get into categorizing folks or
            doing other distracting stuff (for myself), I am down the
            road of disaster having lost the capacity for being
            "completely present and utterly invisible". 
>>>>
>>>>However, I have heard from sponsors and facilitators that
            they observed folks in open space as very responsible and
            very passionate and were amazed... they had always seen
            those as grey mice in "reality". 
>>>>
>>>>In case we all are already in open space, which I suspect is
            exactly the case, are we all scared? 
>>>>
>>>>Looking at the folks in the GDR, definitely in open space
            even though it appeared close to shut down, for some reason
            and in some fashion did gather and act in a way that hardly
            anybody, least they themselves and even less those in
            "power" had thought possible. 
>>>>
>>>>Greetings from Berlin 
>>>>mmp 
>>>>
>>>>On 11.11.2014 20:23, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>To #1 I might say... I have no idea whether you will get what you want. 
>>>>>But I’m absolutely sure that you will never find it if you
              don’t look. 
>>>>>Then again, you may find something better along the way. 
>>>>>
>>>>>As for #2... That one is definitely above my pay grade. 
>>>>>
>>>>>Harrison 
>>>>>
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>>>>>*From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf 
>>>>>Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>>>>*Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:19 AM 
>>>>>*To:* Harrison Owen; 'World wide Open Space Technology
              email list' 
>>>>>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Opening Space 
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Harrison, 
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is where I am...been thinking about this: 
>>>>>
>>>>>"Everyone's already IN open space, they're just scared of
              it." 
>>>>>
>>>>>So here goes: 
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that
              environ, then, 
>>>>>Lawof2Feet applies. "Go somewhere you can get what you say
              you want: to 
>>>>>contribute and/or learn. Since it's all open space all the
              time, that 
>>>>>law is active all the time, if I do not like the
              situation, off I go, 
>>>>>seeking what I say I want. Or at least what my unconscious
              wants. 
>>>>>
>>>>>This raises my question: "does everyone get want they want
              in the long run?" 
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that
              environ, then, 
>>>>>"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have."
              There are results; 
>>>>>the passionate and responsible help make "the only thing".
              Likewise the 
>>>>>dispassionate and irresponsible help make "the only
              thing." Or do they? 
>>>>>Both groups act on their intent and "the only thing that
              could have" 
>>>>>ensues...? 
>>>>>
>>>>>This raises my question: "do intentions=results and vice
              versa?" 
>>>>>
>>>>>Daniel 
>>>>>
>>>>>On 11/11/14 9:58 AM, Harrison Owen wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>>    Dan  -- not quite sure where you are going, but if I
              had an answer 
>>>>>    it would go something like this: “Sometimes... It all
              depends.” 
>>>>>
>>>>>    Harrison 
>>>>>
>>>>>    Winter Address 
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>    *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On 
>>>>>    Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>>>>    *Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2014 9:34 PM 
>>>>>    *To:* [email protected] 
>>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Opening Space 
>>>>>
>>>>>    Yo Harrison, 
>>>>>
>>>>>    Couple questions: 
>>>>>
>>>>>     1. Does everyone get what they want, in the long run? 
>>>>>     2. Do intentions = results ...and vice versa? 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Daniel 
>>>>>
>>>>>    On 11/10/14 8:49 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>>        It might seem like a pure ego trip, and if so –
              please forgive. 
>>>>>        But I do think there might be something here.
              Please enjoy.  ho 
>>>>>
>>>>>        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzNp4LqhNMg 
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