Ok, so "inconceivable emergence" and/or "unnamable possibility" then ?
On 11/11/14 4:47 PM, Michael Herman wrote:
i shared this with tricia the other day. maybe it fits here:
in explaining the buddhist concept of emptiness, mingyur rinpoche
(tibetan teacher) points out that they're not talking about
nothingness or the void...
while the buddha did teach that the nature of the mind -- in fact,
the nature of all phenomena -- is /emptiness/, he didnt' mean that
their nature was truly /empty, /like a vacuum. He said it was
empti/ness, /which in the tibetan language is made up of two
words: /tongpa-nyi. /the word /tongpa/ means "empty," but only in
the sense of something beyond our ability to perceive with our
senses and our capacity to conceptualize. maybe a better
translation would be "inconceivable" or "unnamable." the word
/nyi/ , meanwhile, doesn't have any particular meaning in everyday
tibetan conversation. but when added to another word it conveys a
sense of "possibility" -- a sense that anything can arise,
anything can happen. so when buddhists talk about /emptiness, /we
don't mean nothingness, but rather an unlimited potential for
anything to appear, change, or disappear.
sounds like open space to me. anything can happen. nothing is
necessary.
and to your last question, daniel, for what it's worth: for me, the
law of two feet has always seemed like the reciprocal of the
principles, especially whenever/whatever/when it's over. the latter
point to the vastness of everything/everytime that's possible, and
remind us we can't control it. the law of two feet reminds us to
practice within that vastness, to pay attention and keep moving.
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList
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Hi Karl,
What I am really, really interested in doing with others here is
exploring the "all open space all the time" idea.
Harrison brings this concept up quite a lot, most recently in the
video interview he posted just this week.
The "Law of 2 Feet" and the "Whatever happens" principle as they
pertain to "all open space all the time" are 2 items of
particularly keen interest.
Daniel
On 11/11/14 3:19 PM, Royle, Karl wrote:
Are you on drugs Daniel? :-)
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On 11 Nov 2014, at 20:18, "Daniel Mezick via OSList"
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yes,
According to the idea, "intent=result", my intent in posting
does have "something to do with" eliciting a response from you,
Michael. (And Anna Marie. And Harrison. So far...)
Likewise, I am getting what I want, or: at least what my
unconscious wants.
As a result of this thread, I'm planning to actively play with:
* dispassionate passion;
* passionate dispassion;
* irresponsible responsibility, and
* responsible irresponsibility.
Daniel
On 11/11/14 2:57 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
Dear Harrison,
as for #2 my take is that there is no such thing as "the"
passionate and responsible and neither such thing as "the"
dispassionate and irresponsible. At least I have never seen
such critters in my os-life.
And appart from that there are all kinds of realities. Which
probably could also result in seeing "passionate" und
"dispassionate" etc.
And, if I as facilitator get into categorizing folks or doing
other distracting stuff (for myself), I am down the road of
disaster having lost the capacity for being "completely present
and utterly invisible".
However, I have heard from sponsors and facilitators that they
observed folks in open space as very responsible and very
passionate and were amazed... they had always seen those as
grey mice in "reality".
In case we all are already in open space, which I suspect is
exactly the case, are we all scared?
Looking at the folks in the GDR, definitely in open space even
though it appeared close to shut down, for some reason and in
some fashion did gather and act in a way that hardly anybody,
least they themselves and even less those in "power" had
thought possible.
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
On 11.11.2014 20:23, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:
To #1 I might say... I have no idea whether you will get what
you want.
But I’m absolutely sure that you will never find it if you
don’t look.
Then again, you may find something better along the way.
As for #2... That one is definitely above my pay grade.
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Hi Harrison,
Here is where I am...been thinking about this:
"Everyone's already IN open space, they're just scared of it."
So here goes:
1. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that environ,
then,
Lawof2Feet applies. "Go somewhere you can get what you say you
want: to
contribute and/or learn. Since it's all open space all the
time, that
law is active all the time, if I do not like the situation,
off I go,
seeking what I say I want. Or at least what my unconscious wants.
This raises my question: "does everyone get want they want in
the long run?"
2. Reality: Its all open space all the time. In that environ,
then,
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have." There
are results;
the passionate and responsible help make "the only thing".
Likewise the
dispassionate and irresponsible help make "the only thing." Or
do they?
Both groups act on their intent and "the only thing that could
have"
ensues...?
This raises my question: "do intentions=results and vice versa?"
Daniel
On 11/11/14 9:58 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:
Dan -- not quite sure where you are going, but if I had
an answer
it would go something like this: “Sometimes... It all
depends.”
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Yo Harrison,
Couple questions:
1. Does everyone get what they want, in the long run?
2. Do intentions = results ...and vice versa?
Daniel
On 11/10/14 8:49 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:
It might seem like a pure ego trip, and if so – please
forgive.
But I do think there might be something here. Please
enjoy. ho
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