Laurel --

This interests me.  I think there are two important elements here: 1)
being connected with our own experience -- which is how I think we
tune into the oneness that we are all part of -- and 2) recognizing
(or realizing) our connection with each other and celebrating that --
a kind of human realization of that oneness.  I think we have to do
our own work to accomplish the first and to fully enter into the
second.  I also think that certain qualities of group experience can
enhance personal and spiritual growth.  There is not a linear
relationship here.

I have always been concerned with what I see as an unnecessary and
frustrating division between people with a basically "spiritual"
orientation and people with a community or "group" orientation.
Wilbur has talked a lot about the distinctions that arise out of a
Spiral Dynamic interpretation of various states of development.  I am
concerned sometimes that some of his work, especially focus on the
"mean green" furthers this distinction.  Group connections and
process have been a critical part of my personal and spiritual
development, along with my person work.  I sense a distrust of
"group" in many spiritual circles. If feels like an important element
of human experience is lost when this is missed.

I think "group" can be a spiritual experience.

Kenoli

Julie wrote:

"I think we experience truth when we recognize our connection with each
other, and become glad.  Perhaps healing is what happens in the wake of
recognizing the truth of our connection with each other.  Maybe that is the
only truth that matters."


Thanks, Julie, for jumping in.  Your comment grabbed me by the heart and
guts  - and, if it is "true", then in fact, there is only one truth which
encompasses the ALL in which we participate.  And that truth, that all is
one, can't be known or understood through the intellect, but only through
personal mystical or intuitive experience.  (Here I go with the Ken
Wilburisms ...) This seems to tie in with the Gaia consciousness discussion
that has been a parallel thread over the last week or two - Harrison and
Typhoid Mary notwithstanding!!

Great conversation!  Thanks, all (and thanks, ALL)

Laurel.

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