Hi Tree, Although I can appreciate the sentiments expressed in your response to SD/Integral folks who are too simplistic/generalist and smug in their use of Integral/SDi developmental theories, as someone who appreciates and participates in the Integral and SDi communities, as well as OS, I want to assure you that there are "grown-ups" among the SD/Wilberites :)
Warm regards, Karen Karen Sella www.luminacoaching.com 206.780.2998 -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tree Fitzpatrick Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: An OS "critique" and response I echo Tim Weidman's response to Peggy's posts. I remind this list that Wilber's spin on Spiral Dynamics significantly distorts the Spiral Dynamics model. Wilber has done a disservice to the great work embedded in Spiral Dynamics by getting so many of his followers to denigrate the green meme. It creeps me out to see people lumping people and systems into the green meme, making the designation of 'green meme' similar to namecalling in a school yard. I want to tell all those SD/Wilberites to grow up. Like Tim, I hate the way SD/Wilberites engage in one-upman-ship, but I am not above namecalling myself. Steve Banks must be below the green meme if he experienced three Open Space events and wrongly concluded that Open Space is green meme. Surely everyone on this list knows that Open Space fans are highly evolved, t-2 at a minimum and probably higher. He is obviously threatened by the advanced tool that is Open Space, eh?! Your response is excellent, Peggy, although Banks didn't really deserve a reasoned response. * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
