It would help me greatly if someone would explain some of these terms to 
me.  I have searched the web but cannot find a really practical 
definition.  I can find develeoper guides, but they don't seem to explain 
what's actually going on in terms I can understand.

I need to use my SD card for OsmAnd+ because I need the space.  What is 
'shared storage' and what isn't?  There's External storage 1, which seems 
to be on the mobile not the SD (judging by the space available), and 
External storage 2 on the SD,  Multiuser storage 1 and 2 similarly (what is 
this?),  and then files not under 'Android' seem to be treated 
differently.  I was running Android 11 with files on the DSD but in a 
directory at the same level as Android, but that no longer works.  I don't 
understand any of this frankly.  If I look using a file manager I just see 
the SD card and Internal (or Main) storage.  Where does 'External' or 
'Multiuser' or 'Shared' fit into this?  As for what SAF is, I have little 
idea.

I'm not a total IT ignoramus (a working life spent in the technical side of 
the business, but not Android), but I can't find any definitions in plain 
English.

On Tuesday, 7 December 2021 at 13:09:46 UTC Greg Troxel wrote:

>
> Akkana Peck <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > I'm on Android 11, and I've never been able to access folders of
> > apps from file managers. Just tried Ghost Commander and it can't do
> > it either, even if I give it permission to access all files: I can
> > go to /storage/emulated/0/Android but not to Android/data/anything.
>
> I am also on 11 (CalyxOS), but I long long ago set osmand to use
> /storage/emulated/0/osmand as the data folder. That I can access with
> Ghost Commander, using either legacy or SAF.
>
> My impression is that people who have set a data folder in shared
> storage are losing the ability to have osmand access it, under 12.
>
> I also use Vespucci, and it used to use /storage/emulated/0/Vespucci,
> but because of Android 12 changed to
> /storage/emulated/0/Download/Vespucci
> where the app can access it and the user can too. (I sync tracks back
> to a compuer with syncthing for use with qgis/josm.)
>
> > It's Android's fault for making this so difficult, not OsmAnd's.
>
> Indeed.
>

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