If you're a Windows admin who's afraid of the command line, I doubt you'll be 
one for long. Doubly so if you can't do scripting...

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James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Mauricio Tavares
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ossec-list] I want to get rid of OSSEC's Windows GUI. What do you 
think?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:29 AM, James M. Pulver <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’m perfectly happy to not have the GUI. I would like to keep the key 
> file the same so my wrapper install script can just drop in the key.
>
      While I prefer using config files and command line, the average Windows 
user in general -- and many Windows admins I have met -- are more comfortable 
with doing stuff in a clickety-click kinda way. What I would suggest is to find 
someone who is willing to take over that specific project. i.e. delegate to 
whoever volunteers to do the deed.
Now, what I would suggest is that anything this gui can do is done through 
command line -- edit config, import keys, and whatnot -- so it is just a pretty 
way to do what you can do in a script.

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> James Pulver
>
> CLASSE Computer Group
>
> Cornell University
>
>
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of SoulAuctioneer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ossec-list] I want to get rid of OSSEC's Windows GUI. What 
> do you think?
>
>
>
> I want to do a lot of work on the Windows agent to try and make it better.
> One of the big changes I have planned is getting rid of the Windows 
> GUI. In my opinion the GUI doesn't provide enough value to make it 
> worth maintaining the fairly significant amount of code that it 
> produces as well as the bug reports. Lets look at what the GUI actually 
> provides:
>
> Version information
> When OSSEC was installed
> Ability to import key
> Ability to change IP address
> The information from the key about what is configured currently Quick 
> links to viewing the logs and config Help link to the help txt file 
> Service status information and the ability to change the service state
>
> For the help, version and quick links. I think these links are helpful 
> but can be done as shortcuts in the start menu to provide the same 
> convenience.
> Importing the key is nice and probably the most useful thing but I 
> would argue that this needs to be done once per server. I'd rather 
> make manage_agents.exe the way to do this in the future.
>
>
>
> Changing the IP address again is something that maybe gets done once. 
> I don't think it is much to ask that someone uses a shortcut link that 
> opens the configuration file in notepad.exe to edit configuration 
> options from now on. This is the only configuration option the GUI is capable 
> of changing.
>
>
>
> The service information and changing statuses is probably the most 
> useful thing that the GUI does. However, all of this can be done using 
> native windows tools/cmdline. For most things System Administrators 
> have to go into mmc to make changes to services this way. Most of this 
> code is buggy and doesn't work well anyway.
>
>
>
> Basically, I'd like to get rid of the GUI and all of the code required 
> to make it work so more focus can be put into other features and OSSEC's core.
> I think the GUI is just a novelty and with the Windows world moving 
> toward a more command line oriented future this makes sense in a lot of ways.
>
>
>
> I wanted to see if anyone had any strong opinions on the matter before 
> I start working on this as I understand this can be a pretty large 
> change that people may not like.
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