At 1:06 PM -0500 6/11/08, Charles Bennett wrote:
>On Nov 6, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Roger Howard wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Chuck Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> said better than I could ever hope to.
>>>
>>> <http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000192.html>
>>
>> Which part, or all of this crap?
>>
>
>POV.
>
>I think that it is reasonable for "even the right" to take a moment
>and be glad that we have broken the ultimate glass ceiling for blacks.
>
>It is historic and represents a tangible milestone for the country.[1]
>
>It is also reasonable to assume that none of us have changed our views
>and that it is good to make clear opposition to the planned policies
>does not equate to hatred of the man.
>
>With any luck we won't have the Obama Derangement Syndrome in the way
>the left had Bush Derangement Syndrome.
I hate the Derangement Syndrome phrase.
There is already clear evidence of Obama Derangement Syndrome
if you belive in the concept, given the sheer number of conspiracy
theories spewed during the campaign, most of which will continue to
rattle around the far right for years to come. Take, for example,
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
FWIW, if you believed in Bssh Derangement Syndrom both the
right and die-hard Obama supporters seemed to pretty clearly have a
fair incidence of Hilary derangement syndrome. I've seen plenty of
the hard right accuse her of literally having people murdered, for
example. And i've seen plenty of people (including some here) take
small slips or gaffes as evidence of massive personal flaws.
And as far as Bush Derangement Syndrome goes -- I remember
when it first came up, you were citing the claims that Bush was the
worst President the US has had (or at least this century) as clear
evidence of it. Now, Bush as the worst president is barely even
controversial. Were the left wing academics who claimed he was that
bad deranged, or just ahead of the curve? People hated Bush and
believed the worst of Bush not because they had a 'Syndrome', but
because he was a truly truly awful President, and half their
conspiracy theories about him turned out to be right.
The Derangement Syndrom stuff is just a way of accusing those
who truly hate your side of being insane. And its not a syndrome, its
just a natural part of partisan politics - the important issue isn't
how much you hate the opposition, but whether you do so for things
that are real or imagined, whether you drift into conspiracy theory.
I mean, sure, I think people who tend to believe whatever rubbish
comes out of the partisan political rumour mill without confirmation
deserve some condemnation, but those who use the 'Derangement
Syndrome' phrase are almost always those partisan enough to be guilty
of that themselves.
>Sure, some will, but I hope that the coming fight over policy will
>stay above the petty and personal. Perhaps that is too much to ask.
I certainly hope so. I think Obama is likely going to
actually walk some of the bipartisan walk, which will help defuse the
crazies, but there is a lot of crazy.
Also, the left will probably start hating him soon enough, so
that will help.
Cheers
David
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