On 2008-Nov-06, at 19:50, Patrick Coskren wrote:

> More accurately, it demonstrates that the attempt to make it about  
> race failed.

With race though, it can also be about culture, and so if I see  
someone behaving in a racist way, I wonder what it is that they are  
actually reacting against.  If Obama actually spoke like a guy from  
Kenya, or if he actually dressed like a Muslim (to go with the name),  
then that would bring out much more resistance. Instead we have a guy  
who can really speak English, and compose his sentences, and is more  
of a Western intellectual than most Americans. I knew a lady from  
Jamaica, and she talked about Jamaicans in a way that, had her words  
been coming out of the mouth of a white person, would have sounded  
very racist. But it was the culture she despised, and she herself was  
black, but essentially British. I really don't see it as a huge  
milestone--it is more symbolic I suppose. Will Smith and Morgan  
Freeman have been model cool wise smart authoritative guys on screen  
for years, and their films have been blockbusters. References to his  
Pastor can easily be confusing culture with skin colour. See, a place  
like South Africa wasn't just divided by skin colour--the whites and  
blacks actually had very different cultures.

Stefano

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