On 2009-Jan-27, at 01:08, Roger Howard wrote: > On Mon, January 26, 2009 3:20 pm, Stefano Mori wrote: > >> Well to come back to a mundane example, I tried this one with my >> wife. >> >> I turn up late, again. This time I figure, I won't apologize. Instead >> I'll save the apology for some future date when I have been on time >> for a significant period, thus proving that I really am genuine about >> being on time. > > Might as well have offered a car analogy. Sorry, I don't think all > things > scale linearly - what might work when lying to your wife won't > necessarily > work on the world stage - the politics are in fact quite different. > > For that matter, your wife is likely not going to wait for an > apology - > the world can wait, the US isn't going to be forced to sleep on the > sofa > unless it does. There's a huge difference.
Every example I've given, people point out why it's different. Germany: different coz it was 50 years later. The Pope: different coz he did it to God. Wife: different coz forced to sleep on sofa. Japan: funny, nobody tackled that one. I'm sure they must be different for some reason.... You can always claim it is different. But is that difference the *real* reason why you think the apology is not OK? I mean, the picture we've got so far is that: it is OK to apologise in 50 years, to God, whilst kneeling on the sofa. None of these things are really relevant. It is not relevant that the Pope did it to God. It was still an expression or remorse. It is not relevant that one country only managed it decades later. Remorse can be felt now. You've said that Americans feel remorse now, already. Why is it so difficult to express it officially as a nation? The expression of remorse, that is the very definition of "apology". But OK, forget analogies and past precedents like Japan apologizing--- what would be these dire political consequences of an American apology? Stefano _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
