Hello Redge:

WOW!,  this  is  news  to  me!!  I  did  know  that PT was seeking 3rd party
reimbursement without having a physicians referral. Is this correct? If this
were  to  happen  then  that  would  give  PT's  some  of  the same clout as
Physicians.  That  being  the ability to determine medical necessity. As it
now  stands, only physicians can determine medical necessity thus on therapy
provided under physician referral is consider reimbursable.

I  know that our University has a PT clinic that sees students for a certain
number  of  visits  and then they must seek a physicians order. The PT's are
not  billing  for this service so it doesn't really address the issue you're
discussing but it does make it more confusing.

David  L., can you add your PT knowledge to the PT profession seeking direct
access to treating and BILLING medicare patients?

Ron

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On 11/12/2002,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RC> Ron,

RC> The issue of direct access can often be a confusing topic.  When I am
RC> talking about direct access I am talking about direct access to Medicare
RC> patients  not direct access through state licensure.  I am aware that
RC> licensure laws vary regarding the issue of direct access to clinicians. 
RC> While this is all well and good.  Direct access is only as accessible as
RC> the payer is willing to let it be.  In the case of Medicare, a therapist
RC> cannot treat this category of patient without a referral from a
RC> physician.  The goal of the current PT legislation is to bypass the
RC> physician referral for Medicare patients.  If this is to pass we are
RC> dealing with the concerns I outlined in my earlier posting.  The issue
RC> of direct access through licensure is a completely different subject and
RC> one that has new complications for PTs in non direct access states
RC> should this legislation pass.



RC> Redge L Campbell MS OTR/L
RC> Director of Rehabilitation Services
RC> Harrison Hospital
RC> Bremerton, WA  98310
RC> 360.792.6531

>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/02 04:07PM >>>
RC> Hello Redge:

RC> The two states I have practiced in, S. Carolina and Florida, already
RC> have direct access for OT.  I've always been under the impression that
RC> with regards to direct access, PT is chasing OT because most states
RC> already have direct access for OT.

RC> Ron

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RC> On 11/11/02,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RC>> Greetings Colleagues,

RC>> I have been following with great interest the strategy of the
RC> physical
RC>> therapy community in moving toward the entry level DPT and
RC> submitting
RC>> legislation to Congress for direct access and potentially
RC> prescriptive
RC>> authority for physical therapists.  I haven't heard much concern
RC> raised
RC>> in the OT community or in AOTA about the risks of this to our
RC>> profession.  While I don't generally support OTs always chasing the
RC> PTs
RC>> this one has me on edge.

RC>> If the physical therapists gain direct access and no longer
RC> require
RC>> physician 30 day certification for Part B services, they will have
RC> a
RC>> direct line on access to this population.  If you were a referring
RC>> physician, whom would you rather have treat your outpatients?  A
RC>> discipline which could directly manage your patient for you with
RC> little
RC>> or no requirement on your part, or a discipline that required you
RC> to
RC>> continue to follow your patient actively every 30 days, read and
RC> sign 30
RC>> day recertification notes, and be held accountable for the
RC> intensity of
RC>> treatment provided by the discipline?  

RC>> My guess is that physiatrists would feel threatened and would
RC> rather
RC>> maintain the close contact with patients, which would benefit OT's.
RC>  My
RC>> guess is that virtually every other referring specialty physician
RC> would
RC>> rather just refer to PT.  The result would be a significant hit on
RC> OT
RC>> access to Part B patients and further increases in scope of
RC> practice
RC>> challenges as PT's step further into the functional skills arena.

RC>> As I see it, we need to have a direct professional response to this
RC> by
RC>> either requiring this change to be effective for all rehab
RC> ancillaries
RC>> or we need to vigorously oppose this legislation at the national
RC> level
RC>> as a threat to patient access to OT services.

RC>> Is this on anyone's radar screen?



RC>> Redge L Campbell MS OTR/L
RC>> Director of Rehabilitation Services
RC>> Harrison Hospital
RC>> Bremerton, WA  98310
RC>> 360.792.6531

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