More specifically, go to:

http://www.apta.org/govt_affairs/medicare_directaccess

Ron

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On 11/12/2002,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DL> Go to APTA.org

>> David A. Lehman, Ph.D., P.T.   
>> Associate Professor
>> University of St. Augustine 
>> 1 University Blvd.
>> St. Augustine, FL 32086-5783
>> (904) 826-0084 ext. 227
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 


DL> -----Original Message-----
DL> From: Ron Carson [mailto:rdcarson@;otnow.com]
DL> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:25 AM
DL> To: Redge Campbell
DL> Subject: Re: Direct Access for PT


DL> Hello Redge:

DL> WOW!,  this  is  news  to  me!!  I  did  know  that PT was seeking 3rd party
DL> reimbursement without having a physicians referral. Is this correct? If this
DL> were  to  happen  then  that  would  give  PT's  some  of  the same clout as
DL> Physicians.  That  being  the ability to determine medical necessity. As it
DL> now  stands, only physicians can determine medical necessity thus on therapy
DL> provided under physician referral is consider reimbursable.

DL> I  know that our University has a PT clinic that sees students for a certain
DL> number  of  visits  and then they must seek a physicians order. The PT's are
DL> not  billing  for this service so it doesn't really address the issue you're
DL> discussing but it does make it more confusing.

DL> David  L., can you add your PT knowledge to the PT profession seeking direct
DL> access to treating and BILLING medicare patients?

DL> Ron

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DL> On 11/12/2002,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RC>> Ron,

RC>> The issue of direct access can often be a confusing topic.  When I am
RC>> talking about direct access I am talking about direct access to Medicare
RC>> patients  not direct access through state licensure.  I am aware that
RC>> licensure laws vary regarding the issue of direct access to clinicians. 
RC>> While this is all well and good.  Direct access is only as accessible as
RC>> the payer is willing to let it be.  In the case of Medicare, a therapist
RC>> cannot treat this category of patient without a referral from a
RC>> physician.  The goal of the current PT legislation is to bypass the
RC>> physician referral for Medicare patients.  If this is to pass we are
RC>> dealing with the concerns I outlined in my earlier posting.  The issue
RC>> of direct access through licensure is a completely different subject and
RC>> one that has new complications for PTs in non direct access states
RC>> should this legislation pass.



RC>> Redge L Campbell MS OTR/L
RC>> Director of Rehabilitation Services
RC>> Harrison Hospital
RC>> Bremerton, WA  98310
RC>> 360.792.6531

>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/02 04:07PM >>>
RC>> Hello Redge:

RC>> The two states I have practiced in, S. Carolina and Florida, already
RC>> have direct access for OT.  I've always been under the impression that
RC>> with regards to direct access, PT is chasing OT because most states
RC>> already have direct access for OT.

RC>> Ron

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RC>> On 11/11/02,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RC>>> Greetings Colleagues,

RC>>> I have been following with great interest the strategy of the
RC>> physical
RC>>> therapy community in moving toward the entry level DPT and
RC>> submitting
RC>>> legislation to Congress for direct access and potentially
RC>> prescriptive
RC>>> authority for physical therapists.  I haven't heard much concern
RC>> raised
RC>>> in the OT community or in AOTA about the risks of this to our
RC>>> profession.  While I don't generally support OTs always chasing the
RC>> PTs
RC>>> this one has me on edge.

RC>>> If the physical therapists gain direct access and no longer
RC>> require
RC>>> physician 30 day certification for Part B services, they will have
RC>> a
RC>>> direct line on access to this population.  If you were a referring
RC>>> physician, whom would you rather have treat your outpatients?  A
RC>>> discipline which could directly manage your patient for you with
RC>> little
RC>>> or no requirement on your part, or a discipline that required you
RC>> to
RC>>> continue to follow your patient actively every 30 days, read and
RC>> sign 30
RC>>> day recertification notes, and be held accountable for the
RC>> intensity of
RC>>> treatment provided by the discipline?  

RC>>> My guess is that physiatrists would feel threatened and would
RC>> rather
RC>>> maintain the close contact with patients, which would benefit OT's.
RC>>  My
RC>>> guess is that virtually every other referring specialty physician
RC>> would
RC>>> rather just refer to PT.  The result would be a significant hit on
RC>> OT
RC>>> access to Part B patients and further increases in scope of
RC>> practice
RC>>> challenges as PT's step further into the functional skills arena.

RC>>> As I see it, we need to have a direct professional response to this
RC>> by
RC>>> either requiring this change to be effective for all rehab
RC>> ancillaries
RC>>> or we need to vigorously oppose this legislation at the national
RC>> level
RC>>> as a threat to patient access to OT services.

RC>>> Is this on anyone's radar screen?



RC>>> Redge L Campbell MS OTR/L
RC>>> Director of Rehabilitation Services
RC>>> Harrison Hospital
RC>>> Bremerton, WA  98310
RC>>> 360.792.6531

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