Strongly disagree.

Our specialty IS recognized by patients who seek and agree on the benefits of 
our intervention,; referral sources which consider us important enough to do 
just that: refer clients to us; Ins Co's which pay ( if they did not recognize 
OT, $$ would NOT be sent our way!) and physicians, nurses, other professionals .

 I get the impression this discussion is "stuck" in the bio-mechanical FOR. Are 
we stuck in the things OT can not do? 
What about the world of difference OT makes in Mental Health practice, 
Pediatrics, Geriatrics, and others, where MOHO, Occupational Science; etc, are 
heavily applied .
If Occupational Therapy were not recognized here and now, we would not be here 
today! The various changes/opportunities  MCR and other Ins. Co's have 
implemented to their policies, precisely because of OT contributions, would not 
be available to us...

Are we making a positive difference in the lives of the clients we treat on 
not? If not, why are we still practicing...

I am thinking of prior discussions about AOTA and cost of membership: How would 
those " doing something " efforts be paid for? Some practitioners don't even 
want to be members because of the dues...
I believe that WE are AOTA and it is in our hands to create the changes..."do 
something", one doctor in the elevator at a time, one passer-by in the street 
at at time. The alternative is from this day forward, to mis-educate consumers 
that OT is like PT but for the upper extremity! 



Carmen
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Carson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Joan Riches<mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [OTlist] Occupation


  Hello Joan:

  I think I understand what you are saying about OT's being specialists in
  occupation,  but the system in which we work (system includes: patients,
  referral  sources,  payers,  other  providers)  does  NOT recognize this
  speciality.  Having  a speciality that is not recognized by others is of
  little  value.  In  our  beginning,  OT's  speciality  in occupation was
  recognized  and  highly  valued, but over the years, this speciality and
  valuation  has  been  lost.  Again,  I  think this is our problem and is
  exactly why SOMETHING must be done by AOTA.

  You said:

  quote > Part  of our problem is that occupation is present in EVERYTHING
  quote > that  anyone  does.  Our  special expertise is that we see that.

  then   went  on  to  say:

  quote > Many people can do their own OT interventions.

  On  one  hand,  it seems that occupation is OUR speciality and the other
  hand,  it  seems  that almost anyone can do it - these statements appear
  conflicting.

  Joan,  I  understand your dentist example, but I don't think that is how
  most people think. Most people, including me, think; my tooth hurts, who
  can  help me? I wish things were the way you described but my reality is
  that they are not.

  One  of  OT's  claim  to fame is the use of therapeutic occupation (i.e.
  using  teeth  brushing  as  the  agent to improve dynamic standing) Your
  comments  seem  to  point against the use of occupation as a therapeutic
  agent, at least in the below example.

  Great dialogue,

  Ron

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Joan Riches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006
  To:   [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
  Subj: [OTlist] Occupation

  JR> Right Ron
  JR> The dentist is a person with a profession who has a specialised expertise
  JR> just like us. The dentist looks at a toothache with dentist eyes. The
  JR> occupational deficit is implicit in the dental problem but it is not her
  JR> expertise to address it - just as (unlike the OT/PT confusion) it is not
  JR> part of our expertise to address the toothache per se.
  JR> Part of our problem is that occupation is present in EVERYTHING that 
anyone
  JR> does. Our special expertise is that we see that. I am remembering my own
  JR> frustration when in Home Care I kept walking into situations where VERY
  JR> OBVIOUS simple things were working against the client or compromising
  JR> safety. Finally I realised that those things were not obvious to either 
the
  JR> nurse or the client. It took OT eyes to see them and make them explicit 
and
  JR> that is why I was there. Value your OT eyes. They are special. They are 
what
  JR> make us specialists in occupation.  They have become so much a part of us
  JR> that we take them for granted. 
  JR> There is a problem our profession has that many others do not have. Many
  JR> people can do their own OT interventions. You have described a lot of 
them.
  JR> We do go to the dentist so we can eat corn on the cob. We've unconsciously
  JR> done the assessment and identified the component that needs to be 
addressed.
  JR> Then we name the component as the problem in order to access the specialty
  JR> that can address it.
  JR> The difference between us and the dentist is that dentistry is not 
embedded
  JR> in all of life. The people who need us are those whose unconscious
  JR> assessments are incomplete; for whom return to 'normal' is compromised by
  JR> factors they do not have the expertise to consider; or whose present
  JR> distress can be alleviated by practical means while natural or medical
  JR> healing takes place.   
  JR> Quote from Michael "When given the choice of brushing their teeth standing
  JR> at the sink (or) performing resistive standing exercises in parallel bars 
in
  JR> most cases pt choose the exercises."  I would too. I want to get my mouth
  JR> feeling fresh and it's easier and more satisfying to do with the
  JR> environmental modifications of sitting down with a glass and kidney basin.
  JR> Struggling to do it standing at the sink compromises my occupational goal 
of
  JR> a clean mouth and makes me feel inadequate. I'd sooner work on the 
standing
  JR> separately in a social atmosphere where it is the prime concern. Someone
  JR> (like us) needs to notice when I can stand well enough to use standing to
  JR> support teeth brushing and encourage it. At that point standing ceases to 
be
  JR> an occupation that requires my full attention and becomes a component to
  JR> support dental hygiene. As I recover, dental hygiene will cease to be an
  JR> occupation and become a component as well.  This is called client centred
  JR> practice.  It's about not confusing our goals with the client's and then
  JR> getting frustrated because we think our goals are more important. Lots of
  JR> people will progress to standing at the sink on their own. We can help 
them
  JR> by noticing and making the progress explicit since most of them will be
  JR> focusing on the things they still cannot do 'nornally'.
  JR> Wow has this discussion ever taken off. It's hard to keep up. Such a joy 
to
  JR> have a place to struggle with these questions and others to 'listen ' with
  JR> OT ears. Sorry if I'm pontificating. It's exciting to be so stimulated.
  JR>  Joan Riches
   




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