What model printer? And what model Palm Pilot? Cheers Ken
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 7:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced I know where you are coming from. There is a cost for a company when they abandon a product. To this day, I will never buy a HP again. They abandoned my laser printer and my palm pilot. Printer works fine, if I stay with windows XP. It actually won't work anymore. There's probably some fine print somewhere saying to bad, I'm on my own there. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is still waiting for an Ice Cream Sandwich update. I could put it on there myself if I want the pain that goes with that. Or buy one of their new products that has ICS. Marketing ploy or are they just busy making it work properly so the support calls don't come in when they roll it out? I'm not saying its a good thing but Microsoft are not the first to do this. Won't be the last. It's still being driven by humans, and we aren't perfect. The real question is, so what are you going to do about it? Complain on here on this list or go and do something about it? Still can't believe Scott dragged my face into this. That's just low. ;) On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Bill McCarthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Yes phones will be out of date, the question is whether it is months > or years. In Australia, typical contracts are 24 months, and I'm > pretty sure the ACCC told telcos they had to warranty devices for the > length of the contracts. So two years is fair to expect to be a > current lifetime; obviously there will be hardware improvements in > that time, but the software and apps available you'd reasonably expect > to be current. Apple deal with that by controlling the release dates > of devices to a new device a year and OS support roughly of +1: hence > you can be sure to get two years of being current. Android has been > all over the place, but the big players such as Samsung are also > moving to give that period of currency by providing OS updates (eg Galaxy II). For Windows Phone there isn't that. > > Personally the thing about this I dislike the most is not the fate of > my own phone (I do like my lumia), but that I can no longer recommend > to people they currently buy a windows phone. This is the real shame. > It'd be a lot better if people could upgrade: would probably still be > worth waiting for the newer devices for NFC. The sooner they get the > new devices out the better. > > > |-----Original Message----- > |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- > |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price > |Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 8:29 PM > |To: ozDotNet > |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced > | > |Why don't you two get a room? :) > | > |In an attempt to throw petrol onto a cooling fire, Microsoft don't > |have to > make > |new devices backward compatible. Or forward compatible. > |They make decisions, like any project, on what new releases mean. I > |don't > think > |that assuming people will be happy to upgrade their phone for a newer > improved > |one is a bad one to make. These days the majority of phones end up in > |a > draw > |somewhere in less than three years. The phones cost almost nothing > |(if you > are > |on a plan where you got your phone for $0 and you get to the end of > |the > contract > |period, they don't make your plan cheaper for example.) You get the > |option > to > |upgrade to a newer phone. If your phone is older than 2 years old > |then > phones > |are not that important to you (or you're money priorities lay > |elsewhere) > and no > |amount of new features would compel you to upgrade. > | > |I, for example, have three phones. Android, Iphone, and Windows phone 7. > Thats > |just the phones I carry in my bag, I have no idea how many phones I > |have at > home > |in the draw somewhere. > | > |Your phone will be out of date. Its just a question of how long that > |will > take. I'm > |kinda stunned that's news. > | > |As for you two fighting over what information was available, and what > |assumptions people made about if they can upgrade their new phone or not. > |heheh... it really really must tick you off. I'm not taking sides, I > |don't > care. It's > |been too long since anyone's butted heads on this list so, good times! > We'll all > |look back on this and laugh. If you have any sense. Take a deeeep > |breath, > and > |step outside. You know, outside where there's sunshine and people > |walking > about > |without computers n stuff. :) We're all in this together, ya know. > | > |And.... Go. > | > |On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM, .net noobie <[email protected]> > |wrote: > |> what you not happy to basically call me a liar on the list? > |> > |> you want meet face to face now... what to have a fight? > |> > |> over a telephone??? > |> > |> I am not the one who has the problem bill, i am fine thanks > |> > |> > |> On 27 June 2012 15:03, Bill McCarthy > |> <[email protected]> > wrote: > |>> > |>> Hi David Thiessen, > |>> > |>> |so... no not after the fact, as much as your ego would like to > |>> |think it > |>> is.... > |>> | > |>> |seriously, get over it, you act like a child who's mummy will not > |>> |buy him a > |>> lollie in > |>> |the supermarket > |>> | > |>> |yeah and you can't read, thats what i said i assumed > |>> | > |>> |you need to get over your self mate, have a cry mybe > |>> > |>> > |>> Okay, that's EOC here. If you want to email me of list or discuss > |>> this face to face feel free to email me directly at > |>> [email protected] > |>> > |>> >
