3 products... all with the same name.. nope nothing wrong with the
marketing here :D

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Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:47 PM, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two
>> different products.****
>>
>> **
>>
>
> With this version, 3 different products.  Will there be fragmentation
> between the original and version 2?  If there isn't, what's the point of
> it?  People didn't want v1, if there's little or no difference, will they
> want v2?
>
>
>
>>  **
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ken****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Chere
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM
>>
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* RE: Mark II****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications
>> too.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need *exclusive *apps…
>> and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with,
>> why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make
>> it exclusive to?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> … which ultimately means *apps aren’t enough*. The *platform* is a
>> failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and
>> Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the
>> products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their
>> niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the
>> currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and
>> versatility of a full-blown laptop. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an *optional but
>> default* app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was
>> Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the
>> slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead
>> of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the
>> hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA – which
>> they’ve also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium
>> for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune
>> to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they’ve
>> limited piracy, there’s virtually nothing in the store worth pirating
>> anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop
>> for it. I’d much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate
>> (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of
>> millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you
>> believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even
>> rewarding people for shit apps – “quantity over quality”) and  a distinct
>> minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more
>> fragile minority.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not
>> sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop
>> in general while we’re at it?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> </rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so
>> apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows>***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ian Thomas
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM
>> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
>> *Subject:* RE: Mark II****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t
>> know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB
>> ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 – really?), and the Power Cover
>> is also usable on the Surface Mark I.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The review leaves out extra RAM, card slot, cameras, size of the SSD, and
>> some other minor details, in favour of emphasising that the Windows Store
>> lags far behind the Apple and Google counterparts, with only 100K apps. Do
>> a need a choice of a million or more?  I reckon if I could get 50 good
>> applications I would be quite happy. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Also, iirc one was to be 5-point touch, the other 10-point; one has USB
>> 2.0 the other USB 3.0 – I guess I need to search for some more complete
>> information. Isn’t there a mini DisplayPort or HDMI? ****
>>
>> ** **
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>> Victoria Park, Western Australia****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *mike smith
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:29 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Mark II****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> But will it be any better?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-surface-2-announcement/29147/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=f7e5da2030-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-f7e5da2030-90318010
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> SSDD
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> --
>> Meski****
>>
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>>
>>
>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills****
>>
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>>
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>

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