Interesting discussion...its going to be an interesting future for these giants...i have always used MS developer tools and software but my experience with windows phone 7,8 has lead me to look at other platforms...
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 10:03 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mark II To be fair nobody has a clue how much impact Windows Client has... its all rubbery numbers around what the actual breakdowns are. In that out of that 55% of Microsoft's total revenue for Enterprise isn't just Sharepoint and Windows Server share... moreover they are means to an end. There's also a reason why SteveB jumped up and down that year yelling Developers, Developers, Developers... that problem never went away. Microsoft gets around 6% of its business from consumer solutions (XBOX, Surface, Phone, EDD crap etc) so they are basically taking their bets and putting them down on the 6% to grow it further as they assert the enterprise (55%) and online services (20%) are in reasonable enough health to buy them some cover fire. In reality though its exposed the company's enterprise story a lot more given most people will start to explore the consumer space more but less with Microsoft in mind given they have broken a lot of faith / trust blah blah.. so its really an awkward time for them and given more and more solutions are popping up each year by Apple, Google, Sony, Oracle, Steam etc they are fighting a lot of front line fires at once. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, David Kean <[email protected]> wrote: I've said it once, and I'll say it again; Windows Client != Microsoft. It is but 1 of 15 billion dollar businesses (up from 8 in 2010). From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II Eh? Microsoft brings in ~$20bn in revenue, and ~$6bn in profits every three months.[1] Surface Pro is a rounding error in the grand scheme of Microsoft's overall portfolio of products. [1] http://www.google.com/finance?fstype=ii <http://www.google.com/finance?fstype=ii&q=NASDAQ:MSFT> &q=NASDAQ:MSFT From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:41 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II I wonder who is doing all the research for the Surface Pro Marketing. a giant that can't find its home any more! I believe Microsoft needs to something quickly if it wants to stay a giant player ..except for business, devs etc no needs to buy MS software anymore..everything is going web and Microsoft appears to be very bad in this area..they can't even get IE to conform to the HTML standard..when I develop web apps..IE is always where the problems occur. Initially MS ensured their IE had different HTML features so that we all developed to IE(as was normal) but now this has 'back fired' on them! Anthony
