yes but apple have your attention so they can afford to tinker with the branding because its no longer a question of "what is an iPad vs Macbook pro" etc.. its really a case of "whats new on something i already know"
Surface is "Ok...so wtf is that.." --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Chere <[email protected]>wrote: > At least they didn’t call it “The New Surface” (see: iPad 3).**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:49 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: Mark II**** > > ** ** > > 3 products... all with the same name.. nope nothing wrong with the > marketing here :D**** > > > **** > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com**** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:47 PM, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote:*** > * > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two > different products.**** > > ** ** > > With this version, 3 different products. Will there be fragmentation > between the original and version 2? If there isn't, what's the point of > it? People didn't want v1, if there's little or no difference, will they > want v2?**** > > ** ** > > **** > > **** > > Cheers > Ken**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Chere > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM**** > > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: Mark II**** > > **** > > I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications > too.**** > > **** > > Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need *exclusive *apps… > and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, > why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make > it exclusive to?**** > > **** > > … which ultimately means *apps aren’t enough*. The *platform* is a > failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and > Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the > products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their > niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the > currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and > versatility of a full-blown laptop. **** > > **** > > Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an *optional but > default* app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was > Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the > slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead > of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the > hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA – which > they’ve also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium > for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune > to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they’ve > limited piracy, there’s virtually nothing in the store worth pirating > anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop > for it. I’d much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate > (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of > millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you > believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even > rewarding people for shit apps – “quantity over quality”) and a distinct > minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more > fragile minority.**** > > **** > > But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not > sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop > in general while we’re at it?**** > > **** > > </rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so > apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows>**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Ian Thomas > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM > *To:* 'ozDotNet' > *Subject:* RE: Mark II**** > > **** > > That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t know > about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports > (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 – really?), and the Power Cover is > also usable on the Surface Mark I.**** > > **** > > The review leaves out extra RAM, card slot, cameras, size of the SSD, and > some other minor details, in favour of emphasising that the Windows Store > lags far behind the Apple and Google counterparts, with only 100K apps. Do > a need a choice of a million or more? I reckon if I could get 50 good > applications I would be quite happy. **** > > **** > > Also, iirc one was to be 5-point touch, the other 10-point; one has USB > 2.0 the other USB 3.0 – I guess I need to search for some more complete > information. Isn’t there a mini DisplayPort or HDMI? **** > > **** > ------------------------------ > > Ian Thomas > Victoria Park, Western Australia**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *mike smith > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:29 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Mark II**** > > **** > > But will it be any better?**** > > **** > > > http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-surface-2-announcement/29147/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=f7e5da2030-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-f7e5da2030-90318010 > **** > > **** > > SSDD > **** > > **** > > -- > Meski**** > > http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv**** > > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills**** > > **** > > Click here <https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ==> to > report this email as spam.**** > > **** > > This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com*** > * > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Meski**** > > http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv**** > > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills**** > > ** ** >
