I don't believe that anyone buys a Surface Pro for the app store alone. In fact, the biggest issue with the Surface Pro in particular is the abundance of apps that are available that are not in the app store.
It's also why I don't think you can compare the iPad to the Surface Pro - they actually have different purposes altogether. Of course, the same logic makes the standard Surface RT dead in the water, although they do have a small benefit in running Office and offering a browser, but that's about all. Personally, I don't think they are worth the money. I personally think people will tire of the Surfaces and go back to thin form factor laptops again, mainly because the keyboards are so much better, but also because of their robustness and they are also pretty lightweight when travelling. On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]>wrote: > Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check the > AppStore in Windows 8.1 ..moreover how man times a week and would you > recommend an App to people outside your industry that exists on Windows 8 > should they ask "Why should I get Windows 8.1" > > If you are struggling to come up with an answer or have to spend a few > moments to think about how that question could be answered - imagine the > average consumer who has absolutely no care-factor in Microsoft community > ongoings... Until that gets disrupted enough to the point where it becomes > an adoption similar to Google (Ie remember the day you switched over to > Google?) there is no incentive its just behaviour of use. > > To measure UX you apply cognitive dissonance as the test - Incentive vs > Behaviour ... If the user trajectory of incentive of use matches their > actual usage (behaviour) you have a bliss point product .. if the incentive > decays in a short time (say 30 days after purchase) you have a fail. The > incentive will decay (it always does) but its a question of how long you > can defer that decay that succeeds. > > Surface Pro has to figure out what the Behaviour of the users actually are > and then it can start to plot the incentive of use thus measuring why the > hell people aren't happy with the products strategy. > > Instead they went "Quick throw more hardware at the problem it will solve > itself once developers get excited to build" ... then straight after that > they then serve developers no incentive to adopt the new by constantly > telling them their current adoption is wrong (vicious replenishment cycle > that benefits Microsoft and less the developer). > > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Nathan Chere > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The crux of what I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM >> >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* RE: Mark II**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two >> different products.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Cheers >> Ken**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [ >> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Nathan Chere >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* RE: Mark II**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications >> too.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need *exclusive *apps… >> and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, >> why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make >> it exclusive to?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> … which ultimately means *apps aren’t enough*. The *platform* is a >> failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and >> Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the >> products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their >> niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the >> currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and >> versatility of a full-blown laptop. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an *optional but >> default* app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was >> Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the >> slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead >> of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the >> hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA – which >> they’ve also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium >> for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune >> to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they’ve >> limited piracy, there’s virtually nothing in the store worth pirating >> anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop >> for it. I’d much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate >> (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of >> millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you >> believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even >> rewarding people for shit apps – “quantity over quality”) and a distinct >> minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more >> fragile minority.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not >> sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop >> in general while we’re at it?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> </rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so >> apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows>*** >> * >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [ >> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Ian Thomas >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM >> *To:* 'ozDotNet' >> *Subject:* RE: Mark II**** >> >> ** ** >> >> That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t >> know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB >> ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 – really?), and the Power Cover >> is also usable on the Surface Mark I.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The review leaves out extra RAM, card slot, cameras, size of the SSD, and >> some other minor details, in favour of emphasising that the Windows Store >> lags far behind the Apple and Google counterparts, with only 100K apps. Do >> a need a choice of a million or more? I reckon if I could get 50 good >> applications I would be quite happy. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Also, iirc one was to be 5-point touch, the other 10-point; one has USB >> 2.0 the other USB 3.0 – I guess I need to search for some more complete >> information. Isn’t there a mini DisplayPort or HDMI? **** >> >> ** ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> Ian Thomas >> Victoria Park, Western Australia**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [ >> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *mike smith >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:29 AM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Mark II**** >> >> ** ** >> >> But will it be any better?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-surface-2-announcement/29147/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=f7e5da2030-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-f7e5da2030-90318010 >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> SSDD >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> Meski**** >> >> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv**** >> >> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Click here <https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ==> to >> report this email as spam.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com** >> ** >> > >
