On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>wrote:
> Yeah, but you can over capitalise. I think it's a very smart thing to do, > to sit back and watch and wait to see if this new fan-dangled Internet > thing is just a fad or not. > > Personally I don't think it will last. > > For example, once they get quantum entanglement networks up and running > the Government will laugh and say see!? we didn't need all those wires and > fibres. > And being quantum, we can make it retrospective! The NSA will really like that. :^) > They are visionaries, ahead of their time. They are from the Government, > and they are here to help. > > > Well, that's an oxymoron. > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes they can (wire Australia up), and yes we can (dream) >> >> >> >> What has happened here, though, is that we’ve missed an opportunity as a >> nation to get an advantage due to ignorance and short sightedness. The >> degrading and inferior copper wire problem isn’t going away any time soon. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 3:16 PM >> >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* RE: NBN Petition >> >> >> >> You don't need fast to backup to the cloud. Crashplan have a good way of >> doing trickle backups. (ans there are other similar solutions). If you >> wanted to put your whole backups (ie acronis backups) in the cloud then >> sure that would take ages and need a fast uplink. >> My current cable internet is fine for me. I'd like a faster uplink for >> sure but nbn seems like a one day someday thing. >> Some big company with loads of money and a passion for wiring up >> Australia overnight would be awesome.... Hey I can dream. >> >> On 05/11/2013 12:06 PM, "Joseph Cooney" <joseph.coo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would have thought if it was worth it to you to have that fast internet >> then you'd pay for it, and if it wasn't worth it then you wouldn't. That's >> how markets usually work. >> >> On 5 Nov 2013 14:01, "Tony Wright" <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> To keep it simple, I can look at a single function and see what it would >> be like under an NBN. >> >> >> >> Backups for disaster recovery. >> >> >> >> I currently backup to a NAS within my environment. The backup of a server >> usually takes between 20 minutes and 1 hour, over my internal 1Gbps >> network. I have Telstra Cable, which is 100Mbps download speed and 2Mbps >> upload speed. If I want to backup offsite to ensure I don’t succumb to >> risks such as fire, my current backup will take roughly 500 times as long >> to backup to the cloud, and I currently have one of the fastest connections >> you can get outside of the NBN. >> >> >> >> Will I go and fork out a few grand to backup for the extra fibre to the >> node? The answer is no. I have better things to spend my capital on. >> >> >> >> Yet if I had a fast enough internet upload speed, I could backup all my >> servers to the cloud within a practical timeframe. Economies of scale would >> bring down the price of storage due to the volume of people that would be >> backing up to the cloud. And it wouldn’t just be business, either. An >> average person might want to set up backups from their home computers to >> the cloud as well. During the backup process, virus detection could >> identify people who had viruses and root kits on their machines during the >> backup process and alert them straight away. This would significantly >> reduce the amount of viruses getting around as well. Just a thought bubble. >> >> >> >> But, oh, no, there are no good reasons to have high speed internet are >> there. >> >> >> >> Secondly, the entire purpose of the NBN was to replace the degrading and >> antiquated copper wires. If there is an agreement that the copper wires >> need replacing, and the Liberals obviously believe they don’t need >> replacing, then the question is, what do we replace it with. The answer is, >> that whatever we replace it with, we may as well get a decent speed out of >> it at the same time. >> >> >> >> If the Liberals want to keep their copper, well good on them. But I don’t >> know why the rest of us should have to suffer from their ignorance and >> short sightedness. >> >> >> >> Only around 45% of the population voted for the Liberal Coalition >> (meaning the Liberals, the Nationals, The Liberal National Party and the >> Country Liberals). The other 55% voted for other parties that either had a >> different opinion or no opinion on the NBN, and the difference on the two >> party preferred vote is less than 4%. So no, I don’t think the election was >> a petition at all. If 4 out of 100 people vote for a different government >> at the next election, we would change governments again. The way the >> politicians are behaving, perhaps we could get lucky. We got rid of Rudd >> and Gillard at the last election, perhaps we could get rid of Abbott at the >> next one. >> >> >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:20 PM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Re: NBN Petition >> >> >> >> (petition == the will of the people) == rubbish. >> >> Obviously :) >> >> >> >> On 5 November 2013 13:10, Grant Maw <grant....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> "I find your version of democracy very entertaining." >> >> Well the only alternative that I can see is getting people to vote on >> every single issue. Is that what you are advocating? >> >> Petitions are, in general, useless, unless you have an alternative >> petition for people NOT in favour of the proposal, AND you can get them to >> participate. >> >> >> >> Petition == the will of the people == rubbish. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
