Not sure if you can send them a drive to upload or not. Crashplan works
well for small changed in big files (once uploaded anyway) as it handles
bit changes to files. So if a small change happens in a large file only the
changed bits get uploaded. Also handles single instances of files (between
all crashplan customers I think...?) . Off topic for this thread...
On 05/11/2013 1:23 PM, "mike smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Stephen Price 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> You don't need fast to backup to the cloud. Crashplan have a good way of
>> doing trickle backups. (ans there are other similar solutions). If you
>> wanted to put your whole backups (ie acronis backups) in the cloud then
>> sure that would take ages and need a fast uplink.
>>
>
> Is that like DollyDrive?  (where you ship them a HD with a copy of your
> backup, and thereafter upload differential changes?)  It sucks the big one
> when you update large binaries (EG OS, Office, MSVS etc) where the
> differences are huge.  Even with 60/20 MB/s speeds, its slow.  Really it
> needs gig speeds to be usable, and I have doubts that USA located backups
> will ever be practical.
>
>
>> My current cable internet is fine for me. I'd like a faster uplink for
>> sure but nbn seems like a one day someday thing.
>> Some big company with loads of money and a passion for wiring up
>> Australia overnight would be awesome.... Hey I can dream.
>>
> After Sept 7, dreams are all you've got.
>
>
>
>> On 05/11/2013 12:06 PM, "Joseph Cooney" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I would have thought if it was worth it to you to have that fast
>>> internet then you'd pay for it, and if it wasn't worth it then you
>>> wouldn't. That's how markets usually work.
>>> On 5 Nov 2013 14:01, "Tony Wright" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To keep it simple, I can look at a single function and see what it
>>>> would be like under an NBN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Backups for disaster recovery.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I currently backup to a NAS within my environment. The backup of a
>>>> server usually takes between 20 minutes and 1 hour, over my internal 1Gbps
>>>> network. I have Telstra Cable, which is 100Mbps download speed and 2Mbps
>>>> upload speed. If I want to backup offsite to ensure I don’t succumb to
>>>> risks such as fire, my current backup will take roughly 500 times as long
>>>> to backup to the cloud, and I currently have one of the fastest connections
>>>> you can get outside of the NBN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will I go and fork out a few grand to backup for the extra fibre to the
>>>> node? The answer is no. I have better things to spend my capital on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yet if I had a fast enough internet upload speed, I could backup all my
>>>> servers to the cloud within a practical timeframe. Economies of scale would
>>>> bring down the price of storage due to the volume of people that would be
>>>> backing up to the cloud. And it wouldn’t just be business, either. An
>>>> average person might want to set up backups from their home computers to
>>>> the cloud as well. During the backup process, virus detection could
>>>> identify people who had viruses and root kits on their machines during the
>>>> backup process and alert them straight away. This would significantly
>>>> reduce the amount of viruses getting around as well. Just a thought bubble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But, oh, no, there are no good reasons to have high speed internet are
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, the entire purpose of the NBN was to replace the degrading
>>>> and antiquated copper wires. If there is an agreement that the copper wires
>>>> need replacing, and the Liberals obviously believe they don’t need
>>>> replacing, then the question is, what do we replace it with. The answer is,
>>>> that whatever we replace it with, we may as well get a decent speed out of
>>>> it at the same time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the Liberals want to keep their copper, well good on them. But I
>>>> don’t know why the rest of us should have to suffer from their ignorance
>>>> and short sightedness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Only around 45% of the population voted for the Liberal Coalition
>>>> (meaning the Liberals, the Nationals, The Liberal National Party and the
>>>> Country Liberals). The other 55% voted for other parties that either had a
>>>> different opinion or no opinion on the NBN, and the difference on the two
>>>> party preferred vote is less than 4%. So no, I don’t think the election was
>>>> a petition at all. If 4 out of 100 people vote for a different government
>>>> at the next election, we would change governments again. The way the
>>>> politicians are behaving, perhaps we could get lucky. We got rid of Rudd
>>>> and Gillard at the last election, perhaps we could get rid of Abbott at the
>>>> next one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:20 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet
>>>> *Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (petition == the will of the people) == rubbish.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5 November 2013 13:10, Grant Maw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "I find your version of democracy very entertaining."
>>>>
>>>> Well the only alternative that I can see is getting people to vote on
>>>> every single issue. Is that what you are advocating?
>>>>
>>>> Petitions are, in general, useless, unless you have an alternative
>>>> petition for people NOT in favour of the proposal, AND you can get them to
>>>> participate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Petition == the will of the people == rubbish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
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