OptiComm are the weak link in this FTTH .. Sit on Whirlpool long enough
you'll find that OptiComm are the bane of iiNet and Internodes existence.
Its because of these jackasses i actually had Simon Hackett on the phone
with me one day explaining how the whole pipeline is a risk due to
companies like this.. specifically how the SLA's work in favour of
wholesalers and not retailers, yet the retailers get the full wrath of the
customer(s).

If you call a retailer today for an issue that a wholesaler is at fault
with all they can do is log a ticket. The retailers also don't accept any
responsibility for wholesaler related issues. So there's really no forcing
function in place that expedites the issue and with FTTH it happens a lot
more than you realise.

I have a 100mbps FTTH connection but i'd be lucky to achieve actually 80%
of this on a good day and the fault has been traced backed to OptiComm.
I've even had Simon suggest i switch from Internode to iiNEt or other to
prove that its not a retailer issue,  I did and he was correct. I've had
OptiComm's GM phone/email/IM me direct telling me its a retailer issue and
that its not their fault.. and watched both sides argue with one another
for over a year.





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Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:35 PM, <anthonyatsmall...@mail.com> wrote:

> Not sure if anyone is aware or already using it..but i do not have NBN but
> found that a company called opticomm  can install fibre and an ISP like
> internode can give you speeds of 40MBS/20MBS connection...
>
>
>
> i’m disconnecting my Telstra low performance line for the same cost but
> fibre speeds.   No could tell me this was possible till i found another
> business had fibre.
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m in Bundoora BTW
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 December 2013 6:19 PM
> *To:* David Connors; ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
>
>
>
> If anyone is interested, The Age has an article that talks about how they
> are moving to 1GB on the NBN:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/one-gigabit-available-on-nbn-this-month-20131206-hv4pg.html
>
>
>
> In the article it states that the cost of a CVC connection is $20,000, but
> that it is likely to be shared between 3000 connections. So the total cost,
> if the ISP gets full take up, is $6.66 per connection. ($20,000 / 3000 =
> $6.66)
>
>
>
> So the full wholesale cost in this scenario would be $150 + $6.66 =
> $156.66. This makes the $200 for 1GB possible, however it will probably be
> somewhere between $200 per month and $300 per month.
>
>
>
> It is also likely that the ISPs will not have to pay CVC until a higher
> number of connections is achieved during the setup period.
>
>
>
> So $20,000 or $6.66. You just have to decide which one is more plausible.
>
>
>
> I guess we'll see when the ISPs start offering 1GBps connections, which
> could be quite soon.
>
>
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>
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>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Its quite simple really. The whole premise of CVC being delivered to 93%
> of the population is bogus and deceptive. This is the statement that was
> suggested. The statement was factually correct but based on a complete lie.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *David Connors
> *Sent: *12/11/2013 8:38 PM
> *To: *ozDotNet
> *Subject: *Re: NBN Petition
>
> On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (Mind you, this is what is supposed to be in the NBN plan -
>
> The NBNCo Corporate Plan contains these examples on page 67:
> * The 1Gbps AVC price will fall from $150 to $90 (40% decrease) while the
> average speed increases from 30Mbps to 230Mbps (760% increase)
> * CVC pricing starts at $20Mbps/month when average data usage is
> 30GB/month and falls to $8/Mbps/month when average data usage is
> 540GB/month. Price falls by 2.5 times, while the average data usage grows
> by 18 times, which means 720% growth in revenue from CVC when accounting
> for price falls.
>
> )
>
>
>
> Are you talking about this:
> http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/nbn-co-corporate-plan-6-aug-2012.pdf
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Page 67 says nothing of the sort. I *think* what they're saying is that
> they are factoring in the 'no charge until 30001st premise in an area gets
> installed' as a form of discount, which is pretty rubbery accounting.
>
>
>
> To put page 67 in laymans terms, the first 150mbps of capacity in the
> service area (keeping in mind that might be 70,000+ premises) is free.
>
>
>
> I believe I read in the draft NBN document that they were intending the
> wholesale price to be $150 per month for a 1Gbps FTTH connection in
> Australia. So the least deceptive answer is that you could have a 1Gbps
> connection for $150 per month plus the cost of the ISP service.
>
>
>
> Nope. $150 of AVC + the ISP Service + CVC.
>
>
>
> Even if the price of CVC dropped to $8/mbps/month, then that would still
> be 800% higher than the forecasted cost of getting data from Europe to
> Australia next year. i.e. 1mbps CIR from overseas to Brisbane = $1, getting
> it across Brisbane, $8. FAIL.
>
>
>
> They didn’t broadcast the fact because they assumed that everyone would
> expect the same behaviour that they are getting from just about every
> single internet connection in the country at the moment, and that is, you
> are likely to get speeds of 1Gbps from your ISP and then you’ll share a
> pipe to the rest of the net with the other customers of the ISP.
>
>
>
> I have to admit, you're the first advocate for CVC I've ever met. Once
> explained to most people they are mortified.
>
>
>
> No one expects the NBN to deliver ANYTHING like what they are getting
> today ... otherwise they would not advocate for the $ spend.
>
>
>
> Given that FTTN is going to suffer the exact same issue, do you think
> Malcolm Turnbull is going to stand on a podium and declare that there is
> also going to be capping or shaping within the new FTTN network? Oh, right,
> I forgot, they’re untouchable.
>
>
>
> Hey? I hang Turnbull out to dry on CVC earlier today on this very thread.
> He is on the record, as is hackett, now we get to watch what happens.
>
>
>
> The fact we're even discussing a scenario where I can get data from Japan
> to Brisbane for 1/20th the cost of getting it across Brisbane - and you're
> saying this is somehow sane - beggars belief.
>
>
>
> The glimmer of hope I am hanging on to (as I said earlier) is that the
> outspoken comments from the current board and from Turnbull re CVC stick
> (i.e. Hackett has called for it to be scrapped or dropped to $1/mbps/month).
>
>
>
> If they want to revolutionise comms in the country, then they would have a
> single access speed of heaps, kill CVC and offer layer 2 intercap services
> at next to nix. That would be interesting and would truly enable things
> like a national LAN for a soho business, remote workers in country towns
> seamlessly on the corporate network, etc.
>
>
>
> Here is Simon Hackett’s preference, by the way. I believe it’s pro fibre:
>
> http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/
>
>
>
> I wasn't aware we were talking about fibre.
>
>
>
> David.
>
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>
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>

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