Xaml from the early days of WPF is circa 2002 or earlier. I think the GU
was still hacking out ASP.NET on planes as a PM at that time.
On Feb 13, 2014 2:43 PM, "ILT (O)" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wasn't aware that Scott Guthrie had responsibility for Silverlight and
> XAML initially.
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> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:28 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer
> blogosphere)
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> inline  (but not const)
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> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM, ILT (O) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Silverlight "end-of-life" is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my
> reading (eg, just today - Visual Studio Magazine - "*Satya Nadella's
> To-Do List*" 
> [link<http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/02/11/satya-nadellas-to-do-list.aspx>]
> - Andrew Brust). There are several offerings of advice to the new CEO, and
> to Scott Guthrie as interim head of Enterprise and Cloud at Microsoft.
>
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> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:49 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Migrating TFS
>
>
>
> Greg? Where are you?
>
> This is your cue.
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>
>
> Ah! What! I'm awake ... I saw Silverlight mentioned as dead and
> abandoned. Guess what I've been doing all day today .. expanding a large
> Silverlight 5 app. We have no alternative, we've spent years developing the
> app and it's in use by some gigantic companies internationally.
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> So is COBOL and FORTRAN
>
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> What the hell else can we do? Seriously! Discussion here last year pointed
> out that HTML5 is the only alternative to delivering rich apps on the
> browser desktop, but it groans under stress and I was warned that it just
> can't show attractive interactive charts of the type available with the
> ComponentOne SL libraries.
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> Hope that MS are feeling nice and release it to SourceForge.
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> Also, I have subscribed to MSDN Magazine (MSJ as it was) since 1993 and I
> agree that it is generally uninteresting these days because it's mostly
> about JavaScript, Stores, Azure, Windows RT and Windows 8 (the latest
> groovy stuff you're talking about). I find I flip through new issues and
> chuck them aside. I like academic articles, but Petzold's and McCaffrey's
> articles are so abstract they're in the twilight zone.
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> MSJ - used to be a good magazine.  Matt Pietrek, Paul DiLascia ( "If this
> code works, it was written by Paul DiLascia. If not, I don't know who wrote
> it".) were awesome.  It's a puff piece now.
>
>
>
> My day to day development experience is consistently as infuriating and
> unpredictable as ever. Projects won't build, IIS goes haywire with code
> 500s, versions clash, dependencies are all over the shop, kits don't work,
> samples are simplistic, designers crash, I'm coding XAML UIs by hand, I
> have to learn WiX, I have to run VS2013 and VS2012 side by side due to COM
> problems, my VS2013 is diseased, and so on. I get up in the morning and the
> things that worked the night before are all on the fritz. Sometimes I miss
> punch cards.
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> Wix, damnable stuff makes your eyes bleed to read it.
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> However, I don't want to fuel the jovial atmosphere of impending doom that
> pervades this forum ;-)
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> Greg
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>
>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>

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