Not a requirement

On Friday, 16 December 2016, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's a touch-screen, is that a feature you're looking for?
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tompbi...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I'll mostly be using it at my desk but I guess I'd like the option to
>> travel with it so I wouldn't go for anything larger than a 15". RAM I
>> thought 8GB would be enough but everyone keeps telling me 16GB is the way
>> to go, SSD for speed obviously, 512GB storage would be enough unless 1TB is
>> not much more expensive, screen res as high as possible given my budget,
>> Windows 10, onsite service 3 or 4 years unless there is a higher offering.
>> In the past I've had problems after 3 years right after not renewing the
>> warranty. Not sure about driving 4K screens, I probably wouldn't but again
>> if it does then I wouldn't complain. Budget is $3000 give or take $100 or
>> $200 since it's a lot of money already anyway.
>>
>> Sorry I speak like a user :-)
>>
>>
>> On 15 December 2016 at 21:51, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k...@adopenstatic.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> First thing, given there are a huge number of laptops out there, are
>>> what are your requirements/constraints/use cases…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a)      What are the minimums you think you need (storage, RAM, battery
>>> life, screen res)
>>>
>>> b)     What is your budget (or any other constraint – OS etc.)
>>>
>>> c)      Is this going to be mostly portable, working in customer
>>> offices, cafes, planes etc), or mostly sit on your desk. Do you want to
>>> drive 4K screens etc. off it on your desk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Given that this is going to be your primary work machine, I guess it’s
>>> safe to assume you need either (a) maximum reliability or (b) onsite
>>> service – no “return to base and wait a week” type offerings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I speak like an architect. I guess I’ve been doing that for too
>>> long now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');> [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Tom P
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 December 2016 8:40 AM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com');>>
>>> *Subject:* [OT] HP Spectre x360 thoughts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow thanks for the comprehensive email Tony. During my research I
>>> actually did read about horror stories like yours where people ended up
>>> sending machines back several times. It's really disappointing when you're
>>> spending so much money. I know several people who just refuse to deal with
>>> Dell now after having many issues with them. I'll keep looking...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 14 December 2016, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been reviewing laptops lately for value for money and decided the
>>> battery life on the x360 sucked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of the laptops in the $3000 range are dual core as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're after a 2in1 and dual core is fine you could consider Lenovo
>>> thinkpad x1 yoga, or the Lenovo yoga 910. Lenovo yoga 910 is consumer and
>>> had 7th gen Intel chip but no pen capability. Thinkpad x1 yoga has pen but
>>> different port configuration.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Check ports on all laptops you consider. Thunderbolt ports are best if
>>> you can get them. Usbc is second best (you can run multiple external
>>> monitors + Ethernet cable via those ports) But you will also need adapters
>>> to fit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The best value I ended up coming up with was a Dell Xps 15. But I have
>>> had major issues. They have now replaced my motherboard 3 times due to
>>> crashes, screen flickering and thunderbolt port failures. Tomorrow they
>>> will replace my motherboard for the fourth time. Not good enough. If it
>>> fails this time, I'm getting a refund.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My advice is look for discount codes as well. My son has a student
>>> account giving him access to discounts on hp (limited selection up to 40%),
>>> Dell (15%) and Microsoft (15%). Lenovo had up to 20% recently but have
>>> removed that deal. Lenovo often have other deals. Apple 10% through a
>>> student discount. Auto clubs, like racv, also have discounts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If my laptop fails again and I have to buy another laptop, I think I
>>> might get a Lenovo P50, but they're expensive and not as sexy,but I can get
>>> a xeon chip or high end quad core, go up to 64gb ram, and put a second nvme
>>> pcie ssd of I like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The other laptops I considered were surface book. Didn't like the lack
>>> of thunderbolt. Apple Macbook pro, which you can install windows natively
>>> on. It's got an awesome configuration but bad battery life, and that's
>>> reduced further by windows. Asus Zenbook pro 15 but couldn't find a price
>>> for the right configuration I want (I only want 1920x1080 as I want more
>>> battery life)
>>>
>>> Hp omen - lacks extensibility. Dell precision 7510 far too expensive in
>>> Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 Dec 2016 5:34 PM, "Tom P" <tompbi...@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tompbi...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of buying the HP Spectre x360 13 inch with high specs (16gb
>>> ram, 512 ssd, i7) which ends up costing about $3100 with the warranty. Have
>>> any devs here had bad experiences with this machine or recommend a
>>> better alternative for the price?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Thanks
Tom

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