I recall Stephen Price had a Spectre x360. Maybe wait for him to join in
this conversation with his thoughts.

On Friday, 16 December 2016, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not a requirement
>
> On Friday, 16 December 2016, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','meski...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> It's a touch-screen, is that a feature you're looking for?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll mostly be using it at my desk but I guess I'd like the option to
>>> travel with it so I wouldn't go for anything larger than a 15". RAM I
>>> thought 8GB would be enough but everyone keeps telling me 16GB is the way
>>> to go, SSD for speed obviously, 512GB storage would be enough unless 1TB is
>>> not much more expensive, screen res as high as possible given my budget,
>>> Windows 10, onsite service 3 or 4 years unless there is a higher offering.
>>> In the past I've had problems after 3 years right after not renewing the
>>> warranty. Not sure about driving 4K screens, I probably wouldn't but again
>>> if it does then I wouldn't complain. Budget is $3000 give or take $100 or
>>> $200 since it's a lot of money already anyway.
>>>
>>> Sorry I speak like a user :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 December 2016 at 21:51, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> First thing, given there are a huge number of laptops out there, are
>>>> what are your requirements/constraints/use cases…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a)      What are the minimums you think you need (storage, RAM,
>>>> battery life, screen res)
>>>>
>>>> b)     What is your budget (or any other constraint – OS etc.)
>>>>
>>>> c)      Is this going to be mostly portable, working in customer
>>>> offices, cafes, planes etc), or mostly sit on your desk. Do you want to
>>>> drive 4K screens etc. off it on your desk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given that this is going to be your primary work machine, I guess it’s
>>>> safe to assume you need either (a) maximum reliability or (b) onsite
>>>> service – no “return to base and wait a week” type offerings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I speak like an architect. I guess I’ve been doing that for too
>>>> long now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@ozdot
>>>> net.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 December 2016 8:40 AM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [OT] HP Spectre x360 thoughts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow thanks for the comprehensive email Tony. During my research I
>>>> actually did read about horror stories like yours where people ended up
>>>> sending machines back several times. It's really disappointing when you're
>>>> spending so much money. I know several people who just refuse to deal with
>>>> Dell now after having many issues with them. I'll keep looking...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 14 December 2016, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been reviewing laptops lately for value for money and decided
>>>> the battery life on the x360 sucked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of the laptops in the $3000 range are dual core as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you're after a 2in1 and dual core is fine you could consider Lenovo
>>>> thinkpad x1 yoga, or the Lenovo yoga 910. Lenovo yoga 910 is consumer and
>>>> had 7th gen Intel chip but no pen capability. Thinkpad x1 yoga has pen but
>>>> different port configuration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check ports on all laptops you consider. Thunderbolt ports are best if
>>>> you can get them. Usbc is second best (you can run multiple external
>>>> monitors + Ethernet cable via those ports) But you will also need adapters
>>>> to fit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The best value I ended up coming up with was a Dell Xps 15. But I have
>>>> had major issues. They have now replaced my motherboard 3 times due to
>>>> crashes, screen flickering and thunderbolt port failures. Tomorrow they
>>>> will replace my motherboard for the fourth time. Not good enough. If it
>>>> fails this time, I'm getting a refund.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My advice is look for discount codes as well. My son has a student
>>>> account giving him access to discounts on hp (limited selection up to 40%),
>>>> Dell (15%) and Microsoft (15%). Lenovo had up to 20% recently but have
>>>> removed that deal. Lenovo often have other deals. Apple 10% through a
>>>> student discount. Auto clubs, like racv, also have discounts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If my laptop fails again and I have to buy another laptop, I think I
>>>> might get a Lenovo P50, but they're expensive and not as sexy,but I can get
>>>> a xeon chip or high end quad core, go up to 64gb ram, and put a second nvme
>>>> pcie ssd of I like.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The other laptops I considered were surface book. Didn't like the lack
>>>> of thunderbolt. Apple Macbook pro, which you can install windows natively
>>>> on. It's got an awesome configuration but bad battery life, and that's
>>>> reduced further by windows. Asus Zenbook pro 15 but couldn't find a price
>>>> for the right configuration I want (I only want 1920x1080 as I want more
>>>> battery life)
>>>>
>>>> Hp omen - lacks extensibility. Dell precision 7510 far too expensive in
>>>> Australia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Dec 2016 5:34 PM, "Tom P" <tompbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of buying the HP Spectre x360 13 inch with high specs
>>>> (16gb ram, 512 ssd, i7) which ends up costing about $3100 with the
>>>> warranty. Have any devs here had bad experiences with this machine or
>>>> recommend a better alternative for the price?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Meski
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
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> Tom
>
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