Best option? Try to get yourself to a point where you don’t need people like recruiters. Build a situation where customers find you instead.
That’s easier or harder depending upon your age and how quickly you want to achieve that. It also means that you get to determine the rates, not someone else. The best day to start working on that was 10 years ago. The next best day is today. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com<https://sqldownunder.com/> |About me: https://greglow.me From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 11:25 PM To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Credit check for new contract And the same recruiters with those duplicate ads expect exclusivity from you. Mike On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 21:19 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com<mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com>> wrote: I do start with the job boards. Seek and Linked in first. Most companies these days put their own ad up and then recruiters come along and put the same ad up with their name on it. Sometimes you see 4 or 5 ads for the same job. Quite annoying. And the majority of recruiter jobs otherwise probably don't exist. But occasionally you find a recruiter that does find you real work and they're the ones you give your time to if you can't find work yourself. Some of them are real slime balls though. On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 9:40 pm Tom P, <tompbi...@gmail.com<mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com>> wrote: If not recruiters, where do you start looking for work? Personally I’ve found it very difficult to find work but obviously many factors are involved. Cheers Tom On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 21:25, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com<mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yea I get that. That's why I said it depends who's at the other end. Tbh I'm pretty sick of recruiters. They are a dime a dozen. I think at one stage about 20% of my linked list was recruiters. My thinking was that I might need them one day. But I have culled them significantly, down to a few remaining agents that I believe add value. I don't often start with recruiters when I'm looking for work, they take too much of a cut for adding very little value. On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm DotNet Dude, <adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Tony, Tom’s original question was about the recruiter asking for this info which is quite different from the bank you’re working for. Financial institutions do ask for the things you mention but I’d be suspicious and hesitant to pass info like that to a silly old recruiter. I’ve never been comfortable with systems like WorkPro, particularly with credit files, which they let you just download as a PDF so the recruiter can easily forward. Not cool at all. The whole recruitment model and the systems they use really needs a revamp to protect user privacy and security. I’m not convinced they are secure. On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 20:33, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com<mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com>> wrote: Really? At the bank I have had sign over a right for them to receive every contact note for any shares I buy or sell. I also have to submit requests to buy or sell shares. That's an Apra requirement. I'm also not allowed to have directorships in more than one company, and it has to be an approved directorship. So it really does depend on who it is and what it means to you. A credit check to ensure that you aren't susceptible to bribery might be reasonable too depending on who it is. If it's some random numpty, sure, tell them to get stuffed, but some places really do need extra checks on their staff. On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 8:25 pm David Connors, <da...@connors.com<mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote: Personally, I'd decline given the circumstances you've described. It would be like asking for this information from an employee and inappropriate if not probably illegal in the context of an FTE. David Connors da...@connors.com<mailto:da...@connors.com> | M +61 417 189 363 Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:20, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com<mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes as an individual contractor so I did find it very odd. I’ve asked for a reason so let’s see what they come back with. Cheers Tom On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:06, David Connors <da...@connors.com<mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote: If you're doing this as an individual contractor on a work for hire / hourly basis then this is pretty strange. Even as a company, we almost always decline disclosure of financial information on the basis that we're privately held and send whoever is asking a letter of solvency from our tax accountants instead (they just want to know we're not going to go bust - but that's a very strange consideration if you're an individual contractor). David Connors da...@connors.com<mailto:da...@connors.com> | M +61 417 189 363 Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:32, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com<mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi folks For the experienced contractors here who may know... I am in the process of starting a new contract and the recruitment agent has requested access to my credit file (via WorkPro). Is this normal? I’ve only had one contract in the past and the credit check was not done AFAIK. My credit file is clean so that’s not an issue but it contains sensitive information such as my credit card limits, etc, so I’m hesitant to release it unless absolutely necessary. Any info would be appreciated. Cheers Tom -- Thanks Tom -- Thanks Tom -- Thanks Tom
