I have forgotten wh told me but in my ranting and raving after my son's birth where the reason I was treated badly came down to the fact that I was "difficult" because I refused to let them induce me with Prostin for my  own personal reasons.  Someone informed me of what it was made from as pig semen is very high in the naturally occuring prostoglandin that occurs in all semen (even human - that is how sex can help to bring on labour).
So hey - sex with a pig is so much better to bring on labour - LOL Sorry my sick sense of humour.
 
OK - I refused because with my daughter I had been induced at 26weeks while very sick with Pre Eclampsia and after 5 doses of prostin my vagina became sore and the cervix burnt and tender - the ob then decided to try to manually dilate my cervix which was almost 1cm dilated and 3cm long. 
She got through it and failed to rupture the membrane because she could not feel my (2lb) babies head.
This was what could describe as a little uncomfortable (as the ob had warned me it would be) or you could truthfully say it was the absolutely most painful thing I have ever had done to me.  So, the mere thought of being induced with prostin sent chills and fear through me so I got up and went home after making sure that at 41 weeks my baby was healthy and there was no real reason that they HAD to induce me but they wanted to do a c/s if I didn't let them fill me with pig semen.  LOL
 
So when I went into labour 4 days latter I had set the scene for them to say - OH - YOU WERE MEANT TO HAVE A C/S - so there was no way i was allowed to deliver, they made sure of that.  
 
Now having ranted once again  back to the question of pig semen - I don't recall who told me - i know it is true because it came from more than one person and now, I wonder how they explain that to people who are vegetarian.  Do they get treated badly if they refuse on there ethical beliefs.  Hmm???
 
The mind boggles.
And Aviva I loved the jump up and down one - probably a safer alternative too.
Rhonda
 
 
 
 
  
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, November 07, 2002 22:56:19
To: ozmid
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Interesting fact
 
What if you were Jewish or Muslim?
Or anyone else that doesn't like the whole idea generally?
How did you find out it was made from Pig semen anyway?
Just curious, Julie.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Aviva Sheb'a
Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2002 9:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Interesting fact
 
Thank you, Rhonda, I'll pass this on. Pig semen? I'll bet if women knew what's in it, they'd be jumping up and down about it instead of using it! (Now there's an idea for induction...sorry, sometimes humour's a good thing).
Aviva
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Interesting fact

I suggest tjhat you allow her to be angry and to vent her pain and her anger towards those who caused it.   Support her in complaining to the hospital and insisting upon answers as lame as they may be.  If she were to ask why was the induction needed?  Was the baby in distress (at the time of the first insertion of gel - a horrible substance called prostin made from Pig seamen.
Lovely!) Was her placenta failing?  What was the indication that at 10 days over she needed to be induced anyway?
Then once they have wormed out of that she should ask for explanations as to why all of the intervention and what caused it and why was it all needed.
 
Give her lots of love and support to do this as nothing will change and it will keep happening unless women are encouraged to complain and conplain and complain! 
Even if she personally gets little satisfaction fron the complaint it is just one more brick to add - eventually we will built a wall to protect women from this - brick by brick.
 
You need to complain first to the registra at the hospital but at the same time go directly to the medical practitioners board and make sure it outlines that the initial induction was not called for and the following intervention could have been avoided.  Also any poor bedside manner should be outlines clearly if they were rude to her which it seems they were not supportive and gentle from your description.
 
I wish her love and luck in her recovery - if she needs someone to talk to you are welcome to give her my email.
 
The problem is this happens every day and it is not looked at as torture or as something that needs to be changed.  The only way it will be seen as a problem is if they are inundated with complaints about this sort of thing.
 
Luv
Rhonda.
 
 
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