Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

[Aviva Sheb'a]

Applaudingly yours, MM, Aviva ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water Hi Frank, in the spirit of good discussion, not hostility, I offer the thought that the people who tell me about pain free labour and birth are all men.  Despite the thoughts behind the sentiments about why women fear labour and feel pain, Even in Biblical times women felt pain and expressed the emotion and the physical feelings.  Yes, hypnobirthing makes women birth much more easily and without anquish as I believe it is a very good meditation/relaxation method which helps women "go with it" without fighting it.  As a woman who birthed her 1st 38yrs ago, I was unafraid (and very ignorant) of labour and birth.  My mother told me it was easy, and it was. BUT it was still painful at a level I could deal with (only 3 hrs that I could identify.) I went on to birth 3 more and found it a very lonely experience (not frightening)  in the labour wards of tiny hospitals in Papua New Guinea.  I think Lieve is more on the track.  There is nothing wrong with pain, it doesn't kill one and it is very character building.  I guess I look at it as muscles working really strongly.  Marathon runners, triathaletes etc also feel the pain of muscles working hard.  I did a stress test on a bicycle this week and believe me, the muscles did hurt!.  (Only 15 mins, not 8-15 hrs).  Lets support women through their experience, not try always to rescue them. Cheers, MM   ---   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 6/12/02