ann, i cant believe the terrible stupid things people can say, especially to bring women down. i will use this can you send me a private email and tell me how you felt in relation to 'mattering', thanks, belinda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] obstetric language!
> Dear Belinda, > Just a couple : after 2 weeks of spurious labour the > ob. called me "an angry manupulative controlling > woman",a lactation consultant informe d me that "wihth > useless nipples like thes ,how did you ever feed your > other babies" (managed to feed babe 2 for 4.5 > years,babe 3 for 2 years and babe 4 for 2 years and > suddenly my nipples are useless?)Ann yes there were > lots more! --- Belinda Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > I am fascinated with this quote, and pissed > off but > > unfortunately not surprised. Are we getting > > desensitised, well some are definitely. Anyway I am > > this week working on a chapter for my PhD thesis > > titled (so far) Women want to matter, or maybe Do > > women matter? anyway so far this is something I cant > > see in almost every interview I have done. My PhD is > > a feminist poststructuralsit analysis of what women > > tell me they worry about for childbirth. Women are > > aware consciously or subconsciously that they dont > > matter in a medicalised system of health care for > > the pregnancy and birth yet it is something they > > desire greatly. This is of course not overly easily > > articulated. I would love your permission Turd to > > use your quote in my thesis and if anyone else wants > > top give me some examples or quotes I will use them. > > It is a sad sad situation but I am not a pessimist > > we will eventually make change! > > Belinda > > > > > > > > From: Trudie de keijzer > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:55 PM > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] obstetric language! > > > > > > This is what I overheard an obstetrician say to a > > birthing woman recently, whilst applying a ventouse: > > > > ' stop screaming....it is all mind over matter...I > > don't mind and you don't matter' > > if I had not heard it my self I would not have > > believed it ...... > > we had quite a heated discussion later outside the > > labour ward > > > > with woman...and honoring of midwives > > trudie > > > > > > http://www.homebirthservices.com.au > > Trudie de Keijzer > > phone 02 47574744 > > mobile 0438 572337 > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
