Dear Belinda, A bit later when the hubby has watched M.A.S.H I will send a private message as I don't know how to do this.I will also have a think back as this happened 4 years ago and lots has happened since then, including a homebirth 2 years ago that had a very healing effect.Ann --- Belinda Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ann, i cant believe the terrible stupid things > people can say, especially to > bring women down. i will use this can you send me a > private email and tell > me how you felt in relation to 'mattering', thanks, > belinda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] obstetric language! > > > > Dear Belinda, > > Just a couple : after 2 weeks of spurious labour > the > > ob. called me "an angry manupulative controlling > > woman",a lactation consultant informe d me that > "wihth > > useless nipples like thes ,how did you ever feed > your > > other babies" (managed to feed babe 2 for 4.5 > > years,babe 3 for 2 years and babe 4 for 2 years > and > > suddenly my nipples are useless?)Ann yes there > were > > lots more! --- Belinda Maier > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > I am fascinated with this quote, and > pissed > > off but > > > unfortunately not surprised. Are we getting > > > desensitised, well some are definitely. Anyway I > am > > > this week working on a chapter for my PhD thesis > > > titled (so far) Women want to matter, or maybe > Do > > > women matter? anyway so far this is something I > cant > > > see in almost every interview I have done. My > PhD is > > > a feminist poststructuralsit analysis of what > women > > > tell me they worry about for childbirth. Women > are > > > aware consciously or subconsciously that they > dont > > > matter in a medicalised system of health care > for > > > the pregnancy and birth yet it is something they > > > desire greatly. This is of course not overly > easily > > > articulated. I would love your permission Turd > to > > > use your quote in my thesis and if anyone else > wants > > > top give me some examples or quotes I will use > them. > > > It is a sad sad situation but I am not a > pessimist > > > we will eventually make change! > > > Belinda > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Trudie de keijzer > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:55 PM > > > Subject: [ozmidwifery] obstetric language! > > > > > > > > > This is what I overheard an obstetrician say > to a > > > birthing woman recently, whilst applying a > ventouse: > > > > > > ' stop screaming....it is all mind over > matter...I > > > don't mind and you don't matter' > > > if I had not heard it my self I would not have > > > believed it ...... > > > we had quite a heated discussion later outside > the > > > labour ward > > > > > > with woman...and honoring of midwives > > > trudie > > > > > > > > > http://www.homebirthservices.com.au > > > Trudie de Keijzer > > > phone 02 47574744 > > > mobile 0438 572337 > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe > or unsubscribe.
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