Re: [ozmidwifery] M&CH and Infant formula

[Marilyn Kleidon]

Jayne:   Despite loving my Milo I have boycotted nestle for at least the last 23 years and the boycott came to my attention in a Consumer Coop in Palo Alto, California. At the time I was unaware of it(the boycott) in Australia. I totally support  boycotting these drug company liasons regardless of their national affiliation.   The US govt and their agencies sponsor and support many disgusting practices especially those that profit big business in particulat their big business, however I personally don't think that warrants  the blatant disparaging of the USA that goes on. I for one have been in more than one picket line while living there and I definetly don't support many US policies. However, everything bad or even ridiculous doesn't originate there.   It is sad but true across many academic disciplines in Australia that American research is ignored rather than even be considered. There is always a supposed political reason for it. I just think it is unwarranted amongst other things. I realise that big business has funded research to such an extent in the US that it is often considered sus, many many americans realise that too, neverthless some really good stuff does come out. I just think we should keep our minds open.   marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: jayne To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] M&CH and Infant formula Marilyn,   I think in this case it is probably because the US is one of the few (only???) countries that refused to sign the WHO Code and it is common knowledge that the US allows these practices to go on unchecked.  Sad but true :( Jayne   ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] M&CH and Infant formula Could we just STOP the anti American hyperbole that flows through and through this list!   First of all this happened here somewhere in Australia. And on last look nestle is a Swiss company!   Does everything always sound and taste better if it has some kind of UK or NZ lilt to it??   I really suggest you all look a little more closely. Some good ideas actually do come out of the USA although many of you wouldn't know because you wouldn't even look at them.   I am getting more and more fed up.   marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] M&CH and Infant formula AARRGGHH This is one of those "that only happens in America" stories. I can't believe such a flagrant breach of WHO codes. I would complain to the nurse manager of the unit, and if you don't get and appropriate response from her, then the director of nursing of the hospital.   And people wonder why there is still a nestle boycott going on out there...   Kirsten Blacker ----- Original Message ----- From: barbara glare & chris bright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 6:07 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] M&CH and Infant formula Hi,   Last week I had rather an upsetting experience.  I was invited to speak at a meeting of local Maternal and Child health nurses about the National Health and Medical Research Council guidelines on infant feeding.  I did this in my capacity as a volunteer breastfeeding counsellor.   I reached the venue at the agreed time, my talk well prepared, overheads done (at considerable personal expense ) to find......no-one there.  But the table was covered in Nestle sample bags,formula samples and empty kit kat wrappers.  The nurses were out to lunch......paid for by Nestle.  The first people arrived back 1/2 an hour later than I had been asked to attend.  My 20 mnth old daughter was also with me, and while she was well-behaved, she had already been "good" for 1/2 an hour.   Is this common practice in Maternal and child health in Victoria/Australia.  Does Maternal and child health have a code of ethics?  Does this still go on in hospitals (I would have thought (hoped) not.  Who would be the most appropriate person/group to complain to.  I don't believe health professionals should compromise themselves in this way, and it is in complete contravention of the WHO code.  Some of the nurses have phoned me personally since then to apologise.  I think they could tell I was unimpressed   Warm Regards, Barb IBCLC