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is a good start. There are various email lists
around which I'm happy to discuss off list if you like.
Although I think it's relevant, not everyone will
find this appropriate as an ongoing topic discussion on ozmid
Kirsten Blacker
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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 6:34
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] M&CH and
Infant formula
Can someone point me in the direction of finding out about the
product boycotts? Are there any websites devoted to this?
thanks in
advance
Katrina :-)
On 06/09/2004, at 12:30 PM, Marilyn Kleidon
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Jayne:/smaller> Despite
loving my Milo I have boycotted nestle for at least the last 23 years and
the boycott came to my attention in a Consumer Coop in Palo Alto,
California. At the time I was unaware of it(the boycott) in Australia.
I totally support boycotting these drug company liasons regardless of
their national affiliation./smaller> The US govt
and their agencies sponsor and support many disgusting practices especially
those that profit big business in particulat their big business, however I
personally don't think that warrants the blatant disparaging of the
USA that goes on. I for one have been in more than one picket line while
living there and I definetly don't support many US policies. However,
everything bad or even ridiculous doesn't originate
there./smaller> It is sad but true across many
academic disciplines in Australia that American research is ignored rather
than even be considered. There is always a supposed political reason for it.
I just think it is unwarranted amongst other things. I realise that big
business has funded research to such an extent in the US that it is often
considered sus, many many americans realise that too, neverthless some
really good stuff does come out. I just think we should keep our minds open./smaller> marilyn/smaller> -----
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Marilyn,/smaller> I
think in this case it is probably because the US is one of the few (only???)
countries that refused to sign the WHO Code and it is common knowledge that
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Could we just STOP the anti
American hyperbole that flows through and through this
list!/smaller> First of all this happened here
somewhere in Australia. And on last look nestle is a Swiss company!/smaller> Does everything always sound and
taste better if it has some kind of UK or NZ lilt to
it??/smaller> I really suggest you all look a
little more closely. Some good ideas actually do come out of the USA
although many of you wouldn't know because you wouldn't even look at them./smaller> /smaller> I am getting
more and more fed
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AARRGGHH/smaller> This
is one of those "that only happens in America" stories./smaller> I can't believe such a flagrant breach of
WHO codes./smaller> I would complain to the nurse manager of
the unit, and if you don't get and appropriate response from her, then the
director of nursing of the hospital./smaller> And
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Hi,/smaller> Last
week I had rather an upsetting experience. I was invited to speak at a
meeting of local Maternal and Child health nurses about the National Health
and Medical Research Council guidelines on infant feeding. I did this
in my capacity as a volunteer breastfeeding
counsellor./smaller> I reached the venue at the
agreed time, my talk well prepared, overheads done (at considerable personal
expense ) to find......no-one there. But the table was covered in
Nestle sample bags,formula samples and empty kit kat wrappers.
The nurses were out to lunch......paid for by Nestle. The first people
arrived back 1/2 an hour later than I had been asked to attend. My 20
mnth old daughter was also with me, and while she was well-behaved, she had
already been "good" for 1/2 an hour./smaller> Is
this common practice in Maternal and child health in
Victoria/Australia. Does Maternal and child health have a code of
ethics? Does this still go on in hospitals (I would have thought
(hoped) not. Who would be the most appropriate person/group to
complain to. I don't believe health professionals should compromise
themselves in this way, and it is in complete contravention of the WHO
code. Some of the nurses have phoned me personally since then to
apologise. I think they could tell I was
unimpressed/smaller> Warm Regards,/smaller> Barb/smaller> IBCLC/smaller>
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