Couldn't resist adding my bit to this one!
First bub was elective C/S, which hubby found very ho hum, not really a worry or a turn off, but not very exciting either - his words were "it's a bit like ordering your baby at the department store" 2nd bub was VBAC but VERY medicalised- I had so much in the way of intervention and drugs that he spent the most part of the very long labour totally bored and not at all a part of anything - I was either off my face or asleep (post epidural) so it was not exactly a sharing experience for either of us. Not turned off exactly but not very impressed at all ( and neither was I ) He was there and supplied what ever was needed, but didn't really feel involved. 3rd bub was totally natural, fast furious and exciting. I was very uninhibited and undrugged, couldn't stand the restriction of clothing so stripped off. It was in a small hospital and the midwife and doctor both took a back seat and let us and our support friend (fellow midwife) get on with it - I caught bub with my own hands. Moaned and moved as I felt the need. He was so involved this time and very supportive, got very teary when she arrived, and confessed to me later that he had been really turned on while I was in labour! (I took this as a compliment :-)) We both have very fond memories of that birth and I know that he enjoyed it as much as I did..

Sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
Edmund Burke
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Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births


This is a very interesting article and topic. I wonder if the type of birth experience influences how men feel.

I think one of points the article misses is that physiological childbirth is a sexual event (and I don't mean sexually stimulating). It involves the same hormones, parts of the body, noises etc. Men notice this eg. my friend's husband pointed out that she looked like she was 'coming' during labour - she responded by swearing and banishing him to another room (it was a homebirth).

I think the mixture of their partner's body and the medical/surgical setting could cause problems. My husband hates hospital and found the environment during my first birth stressful. Second baby was born at home and he was much more relaxed. At home men can also 'get away' if they need to - it is their house, they can go into the kitchen etc = more control over what they see. I have seen many a man trapped in the delivery room, desperately trying to avoid seeing the placenta or perineum etc.

Another friends husband had problems sexually after seeing her in stirrups being sutured. I suture without stirrups and draps because I think it has an impact on both the woman and partners.

The impact of witnessing birth is probably dependent on the birth experience and the individual couple.

Rachel




From: Andrea Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] Men at births
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:55:37 +1000

This is an interesting report in today's Sydney Morning Herald. I remember Michel Odent talking about research done in the US that explored the effect on a couple's sexual relationship when the man had been exposed to the birth process. Michel was advocating that women might want to retain some of their "sexual mystery" by excluding men from the birth room. I have been at births where I wondered how the father was taking the sight of a practitioner cutting an episiotomy.....

What does everyone think about this?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/08/30/1125302566185.html

Regards,

Andrea

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Andrea Robertson
Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education

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