They sure would be. So the vendor needs credability for the designers for the site more than their end users...
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 11:14 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Our new silverlight site If that's the theory, then wouldn't the credibility of the source have some sort of correlation to the credibility of the vendor? If flash has some big vulnerability, and all their files are deleted, they'll be blamming youtube! On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Jordan Knight <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: + you get the "have you heard of Adobe?". "nup". "What about Microsoft?". "Totally". Yet they still install Flash which is from a company they've never heard of... it's just the they trust YouTube to not bomb their puter machine... I reckon it's more about the source site's credibility than plug-in vendor credibility. (the only other thing is on locked down machines - up to the admin peeps to let the SL client trough their labyrinth of superfluous security systems :P) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:56 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site Most of the research I've read / conducted around "plugins + risk" has constantly shown that the average user will install anything put before them provided they get access to the context of what they were seeking. 400million+ installs of Silverlight testifies to this behavior. Don't get my engines started on the misconception of what mums & dads do online, i used to bore my team in Redmond to sleep with my soap boxing on this subject :) ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Winston Pang [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:28 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Our new silverlight site Haha yeah, that's true. I asked a family member once, "Flash is installed right?", "I have Windows Media Player Installed", "...", "Oh I also have iTunes installed". I love users, maybe it goes to show we're still a lot far off from making computers easily understandable for average users. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jordan Knight <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: I find mum and dad users don't even know what tech they are using. "Do you have flash installed?". "What?". "Can you play youtube videos?" From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] On Behalf Of Shane Morris Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 8:48 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site I don’t find that sad. Average users should not have to think about whether something is Flash or Silverlight. We think the technology is cool, users should just think the site is cool. Hopefully users today don’t say ‘nice PHP web site’? ☺ Shane Shane Morris | User Experience Evangelist | Microsoft Australia | [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> | blogs.msdn.com/shanemo<http://blogs.msdn.com/shanemo><http://blogs.msdn.com/shanemo> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 7:51 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Re: Our new silverlight site One thing I find sad about all this stuff is, the average user is going to say "Nice Flash website". :( On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Miguel Madero <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: I just noticed that you integrated 3 videos with the deep zoom. It looks cool. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Miguel Madero <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: Wow that's nice :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: The company history page is another interesting use of deep zoom : http://www.michaelhill.com.au/#CompanyHistory Click the pause button to skip the video On 01/12/2009 10:45am, Miguel Madero <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > Thanks for sharing. > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by Application lifetime objects / client side services? > > > It's nice the way you use deepzoom. Altough I was thinking I could zoom in > out of the products and then I noticed that it was mainly to "preload". > That's nice. > > > It would be good to know a bit more on some topics, for example security, how > you used deep zoom, SEO and analytics. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with most of the comments around navigation, slot transitions and > movies. It's some valuable feedback. > > > > > > > Miguel. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Tatham Oddie > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sounds like some really cool technical work you’ve done! > > > > From an interaction perspective, Nick’s response correlates with Twitter as > well: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tatham Oddie > > au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie, > landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 > > > > my business: tixi.com.au<http://tixi.com.au><http://tixi.com.au/> – Ticketing > without the dramas > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] > On Behalf Of Nick Randolph > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:55 AM > To: ozSilverlight > Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site > > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > > Since as you said this was a bit of a “cheap marketing email” I’m going to > retaliate by providing what I hope will be constructive criticism: > > > > > - I hate menus that disappear! The way the menus disappear > completely makes the site hard to use. I flipped windows whilst the site was > loading (sorry short attention span) and when I came back the menus had > already gone – took me a while to find them. > > > > > - The site’s infuriatingly slow – all the ui transitions are too > slow for my liking. > > > > > - There are some positioning issues whereby the close icon is half > cut off by the edge of the screen > > > > > - When you go into looking at one of the products > (http://www.michaelhill.com/#ProductList?ProductMenuItemId=8&ProductMenuSubItemId=&ParentScreenId=3) > it’s then not clear where to go from there..... > > > > > > General feedback – visually it’s quite pleasing. Navigation leaves quite a > bit to be desired. > > > > > > Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application > Development | +61 412 413 425 > > > The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email > in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or > attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may > not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. > > > > > > > > > > > From: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] > On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon > > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 9:51 AM > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Our new silverlight site > > > > > > > > > Hi all, as you guys aren’t exactly our target market, this can’t be > considered a cheap marketing email to promote our new website, but more a > demonstration of how silverlight can be utilized to create a global retail > branding site. > > > > > > > > On Monday, we released our new website which is written completely in > silverlight. If you get a chance to look at the site > (www.michaelhill.com<http://www.michaelhill.com><http://www.michaelhill.com/>) > it has a number of interesting technical features that I would like to point > out to you all. > > > > > 1. Heavy integration of smooth streaming video. > > > 2. Deep zoom for the product carousel. Significant bandwidth savings > are made by the in-built lazy loading of deep zoom product images, plus the > natural friction effect. > > > > > 3. Integrated video inside a deep zoom image (company history section). > > > 4. Search engine optimisation. > > > 5. Deep linking : > > > a. From search engine optimisation links > > > b. Send to friend links > > > c. Browser integration with forward/back buttons > > > d. Sets the browser/tab title > > > e. Appropriate link / title for adding to browser favourites. > > > 6. Client side state. This reduces load on server such that when a user > visits a page once, then navigates away / back, the application doesn’t have > to fetch data from the server. This is difficult to do in a traditional web > application. > > > > > 7. Custom install experience. > > > 8. Analytics integration (via google analytics / javascript). > > > 9. Isolated storage allows us to persist a ‘super cookie’ using > serialized C# objects. > > > 10. MVVM pattern. Dependency injection. > > > 11. Application lifetime objects / client side services. > > > 12. Animations / effects / scaling create smoother experience for user > without unsightly page refreshes. > > > 13. ADO.NET<http://ADO.NET><http://ado.net/> data services integration. > Rest based / loosely coupled / dynamic data access. > > > a. Easy to secure via policies rather than code. > > > 14. Data driven application, where all menus / and content on particular > screens can be changed via CMS. For example, the product carousels are all > data driven. Dynamic loading of Xaml at runtime allows us to substitute in > content / animations without rebuilding the application. > > > > > You might have seen Ross Jempson post to the silverlight list occasionally. > He is the owner and primary developer of the development company that > implemented our site. We believe we have achieved a fantastic result and the > capability of silverlight has helped us get there. > > > > > Enjoy, > > > Ross (on day 1.....) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ozsilverlight mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight > > > > > -- > Miguel A. Madero Reyes > > > www.miguelmadero.com<http://www.miguelmadero.com><http://www.miguelmadero.com/> > (blog) > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com<http://www.miguelmadero.com><http://www.miguelmadero.com/> (blog) [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> -- Miguel A. 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