Dean,

Yes to all your questions.

Henry


On 6/26/08 10:26 AM, "Dean Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
> 
>> Hi Henry,
>> 
>>> Yes, I know, developing HIP code looks like opening a whole new can
>>> of
>>> worms, but nothing compares to what we are looking at now when
>>> trying to
>>> traverse NAT, support mobility, multihoming, etc. for each
>>> application
>>> protocol and their various flavors separately.
>> 
>> yes, that is what HIP is about (i.e., implementing those functions
>> at a lower layer so that they do not have to be redesigned by every
>> single application-layer protocol).
>> 
> 
> This asks the question "Why don't we believe in HIP in this role?"
> 
> Is it because we've seen HIP struggling to advance for many years and
> think we can move more quickly?
> 
> Is it because we think the IETF's immune system will suppress HIP but
> that application-level work can move through?
> 
> Is it because we think that doing this stuff at the HIP level requires
> widespread OS and IP stack changes, but that we can deploy application-
> level solutions without it?
> 
> Is it because we think that if HIP solves the problems, then there
> will be no fun work left to do on applications?
> 
> Or is there something else?
> 
> There must be some reason, as I would think that if people really
> believed in HIP that the entire resources of the IETF would be bent
> towards getting it wrapped up and ready to go, since solving these
> problems again and again for every different application makes no more
> sense than would reinventing IP for every application.
> 
> --
> Dean

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