Eric,

Sorry, I should have been clearer in my statement:
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*When used with HIP*, it seems like P2PSIP needs to sit on top of HIP for the 
addressing HIP provides....
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I do realize that currently-proposed P2PSIP protocols will work fine without 
HIP.

Thanks for the info below,
Dan 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Rescorla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:25:10 
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Cc:"Bruce Lowekamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,[EMAIL PROTECTED],"Henry Sinnreich" 
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] HIP for P2P SIP


At Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:59:48 +0000,
=?utf-8?B?RGFuIFlvcms=?= wrote:
>
> Is it just me or is there a fundamental bootstrapping problem here?

Not really. You just need to be able to connect to some nodes
without using the rendezvous service.


> It seems like P2PSIP needs to sit on top of HIP for the addressing
> HIP provides....

Well, this certainly is not true. RELOAD will work fine without
HIP. In fact, the only currently specified modes are non-HIP,
though we anticipate it would be straightforward to do a HIP mode.



-Ekr
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