Hi Bruce, I agree with you about that we need to address any duplication between the base draft and this draft. The consensus in the last meeting was to define separate methods in the diagnostics draft and leave the ones in the base draft simple.
As for the parameters in diagnostics information there was some discussion in the past on the list and I also think we need to look at them. Regards Roni Even -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Lowekamp Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:03 PM To: David A. Bryan Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] List consensus call to adopt draft-zheng-p2psip-diagnose-04 as a WG item I've been in favor of adoption, and I am not going to change my opinion now. However, I have some serious concerns about this draft, and the revisions have not addressed them. When the revision was posted, it should have been announced on the list and the changes made to it brought to the attention of the wg members for discussion. I have technical concerns with this draft that have been mentioned before (OWD can't be measured the way this draft proposes, and I don't believe the multiple-responses-for-an-echo-request technique should be supported). There are also some issues with duplication of functionality between base methods and the new methods defined. I think this is something we can address later as a working group. I don't understand why the "diagnostic server" material was added to this revision. I think it should be removed. If something like this is desired, it should be entirely separate. Bruce On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:13 PM, David A. Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > Looking for objections, since we had consensus in the room in Minneapolis. > > Thanks for clarifying! > > David (as chair) > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Dan York <[email protected]> wrote: >> David, >> >> Are you expecting us to send messages to the list agreeing with this? Or >> are you taking the lack of *dissenting* messages as a sign of consensus? >> >> Dan >> >> P.S. I agree with this action, by the way, and did hum to adopt in the room >> in Minneapolis. >> >> On Dec 26, 2008, at 10:08 AM, David A. Bryan wrote: >> >>> In Minneapolis, there was a hum taken which indicated rough consensus >>> to move towards adopting the P2PSIP diagnostics draft as a working >>> group item. Since there were also a number of corrections/changes >>> requested, the chairs asked the authors to iterate the draft and post >>> it, and then we would verify the consensus on list. >>> >>> The authors posted the revisions to the draft a few weeks ago: >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zheng-p2psip-diagnose-04.txt >>> >>> I'd like to ask for list consensus to verify the consensus from the >>> meeting in favor of adopting this work as a WG item. >>> >>> David (as chair) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> P2PSIP mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >> >> -- >> Dan York, CISSP, Director of Emerging Communication Technology >> Office of the CTO Voxeo Corporation [email protected] >> Phone: +1-407-455-5859 Skype: danyork http://www.voxeo.com >> Blogs: http://blogs.voxeo.com http://www.disruptivetelephony.com >> >> Build voice applications based on open standards. >> Find out how at http://www.voxeo.com/free >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
