Eric, I don't agree this is premature in any way.
We've allowed over a week on this topic. You never posted saying you were reviewing, you have made no comments on list about the draft since Stockholm. Bruce started a thread on the previous version way back on July 25th, and you didn't comment. Are there others besides yourself (and Cullen)? If so, speak up now. Otherwise, we had consensus in the room and allowed a reasonable time for comments on list. David On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote: > David, > > I think calling consensus here is slightly premature. > > I have not had time to review this document and plan to do so today. > > My impression was Cullen intended to do so as well. > > -Ekr > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, David A. Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Seeing as we've had no objections for a week, I'll take that as list >> confirmation of the room consensus Brian called in Stockholm, adopting >> the security overview as a WG item. >> >> David (as chair) >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Dan York <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Enrico, >>> >>> Thank you for alerting us to this survey and, speaking for the security >>> draft author team, I'll say that it definitely sounds like something we >>> should consider. Thanks. >>> >>> Thank you, as well, for your support of adopting the draft as a WG item. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Enrico Marocco wrote: >>> >>>> The P2P Research Group is publishing a survey on security issues in p2p >>>> overlays for realtime communications that I think this draft should in >>>> some ways take into consideration, e.g. discussing how the various >>>> attacks and possible solutions apply to the very specific P2PSIP case. >>>> The survey is draft-irtf-p2prg-rtc-security; IIRC it has passed IRSG >>>> review and is now headed to the IESG. >>>> >>>> Sorry for not pointing this out earlier -- while this was discussed in >>>> Stockholm I was probably in a jet lag coma on those fantastic Swedish >>>> chairs ;-) >>>> >>>> Anyways, I support its adoption as WG item. >>>> >>>> Enrico >>>> >>>> David A. Bryan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As Dan mentions below, there was a call in Stockholm to (pending the >>>>> changes requested) adopt this work as a WG item: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matuszewski-p2psip-security-overview-00.txt >>>>> >>>>> As the authors feel they have made the requested changes, I'd like to >>>>> ask folks on list to confirm this consensus. Please send comments >>>>> about adoption to the list, and we'll make a call after there has been >>>>> time to review and comment (at least a week). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> David (as chair) >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dan York <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> P2PSIP working group members, >>>>>> >>>>>> At IETF 75, we were given the direction to remove the RFC 2119 language >>>>>> from >>>>>> the document and move it from being a normative doc to a purely >>>>>> informational doc. I have now started this and made a number of other >>>>>> changes, including most notably the name change from >>>>>> "p2psip-security-requirements" to "p2psip-security-overview": >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matuszewski-p2psip-security-overview-00.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> Chairs, per the discussion that apparently happened at IETF75, we would >>>>>> like >>>>>> to ask for this to be considered as a working group document. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note... I made a mistake in the submission process and also >>>>>> submitted >>>>>> this as: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matuszewski-p2psip-security-requirements-06.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> They are IDENTICAL except for the name change. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your consideration, >>>>>> Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dan York, Director of Conversations >>>>>> Voxeo Corporation http://www.voxeo.com [email protected] >>>>>> Phone: +1-407-455-5859 Skype: danyork >>>>>> >>>>>> Join the Voxeo conversation: >>>>>> Blogs: http://blogs.voxeo.com >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/voxeo http://twitter.com/danyork >>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/voxeo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> P2PSIP mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> P2PSIP mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> P2PSIP mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >>> >>> -- >>> Dan York, Director of Conversations >>> Voxeo Corporation http://www.voxeo.com [email protected] >>> Phone: +1-407-455-5859 Skype: danyork >>> >>> Join the Voxeo conversation: >>> Blogs: http://blogs.voxeo.com >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/voxeo http://twitter.com/danyork >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/voxeo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> P2PSIP mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >> > _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
