At Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:56:08 -0400,
David A. Bryan wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm not even going to justify ludicrous pedantry over 9 minutes
> with a response...moving on to potentially substantive issues...

David,

Of course, you're mischaracterizing my point, but what's actually
ludicrous is you doing a consensus call with no firm deadline and then
attempting to ignore feedback that arrives within a time period
reasonably implied by your vague deadline. If you intend to be hard
about deadlines, then they need to be clearly stated.



> >> You never posted saying you
> >> were reviewing, you have made no comments on list about the draft
> >> since Stockholm. Bruce started a thread on the previous version way
> >> back on July 25th, and you didn't comment.
> >
> > Because I had already made comments on the previous version during
> > the meeting.
> 
> While your points below are worth considering, this particular point
> by itself is procedurally not relevant.

What it's relevant to, David, is your argument that "Bruce started a
thread on the previous version way back on July 25th, and you didn't
comment." Comments don't go away just because they aren't repeated
incessantly.


> You of course are still welcome to make the same objections on list,
> but it there is consensus, the fact you objected before the consensus
> call in the room and make the same objection now doesn't lack of
> consensus make. See
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dusseault-consensus-00 ...
>
> With those out of the way, the concern below is a potentially valid one:

The problem here, David, is that you don't have consensus to accept
this document in its current state. As I stated, there was consensus
in the room to accept the document pending a particular set of
changes. I claim those changes have not been made. Absent an
affirmative showing on the list or in a meeting that there is
consensus that those changes have in fact been made at this time,
there simply is no showing of consensus to accept this document as-is
and having it published as a WG document is a process error.  Silence
is not consent.

-Ekr
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