On 24/07/12 08:26, Sebastian Willing wrote: > Hi, > > you're doing a great job with the bot, but I don't know if all of this > is necessary. We've been on irc.perl.org for years and I don't remember > one kick or ban. > > It's quite friendly here (like IRC should be) and we don't need all > these toys which became quite common on some IRC networks where fighting > became more important than chatting. > > There has been one single unfriendly issue lately but no bot or anything > else would have been able to avoid this. > > Just by 2ct... > Sewi > > On 23.07.2012 00:18, kevin dawson wrote: >> On 20/07/12 18:01, kevin dawson wrote: >>> On 19/07/12 14:44, kevin dawson wrote: >>>> On 19/07/12 13:47, kevin dawson wrote: >>>>> we have a dichotomy with gving a Welcome message and generating spam >>>>> as sewi correctly highlights. >>>>> >>>>> "It looks a bit like a Quakenet channel where bots are talking >>>>> more with each other than regular users." >>>>> >>>>> not providing Welcome message for op's is easy >>>>> >>>>> as for rest, well we could abuse the HOP (half-op status) for known >>>>> members, similarly to the current trust for ops. >>>>> >>>>> it would just mean emulating the trust system. >>>>> >>>>> But, there’s always a but, would this be an abuse of the IRC HOP >>>>> feature, or can we do what we want with it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> bowtie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Padre-dev mailing list >>>>> Padre-dev@perlide.org >>>>> http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev >>>> I have tweaked bot code >>>> >>>> r19144 >>>> >>>> now op's will not receive a welcome message on join, only on /nick >>>> change to a trusted nickname >>>> >>>> this will most likely happen when an op joins via a web interface >>>> then issues a /nick >>>> >>>> >>>> regards >>>> bowtie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Padre-dev mailing list >>>> Padre-dev@perlide.org >>>> http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev >>> ok >>> >>> I have now sent the /nick message privately, they can change nick in >>> private chat also ;) >>> >>> as for those who do not want the Welcome message, there is now an >>> experimental status using hop, ie hop no welcome >>> >>> regards >>> bowtie >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Padre-dev mailing list >>> Padre-dev@perlide.org >>> http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev >> I thought finished, apart from weather normal user should be 'Welcome' >> >> but look at other channels for inspiration, I noticed we don't have a >> ban mechanism. >> >> we do now, and it's persistant >> >> bot: ban nickname # ban nick then kick the nick, added to banned list, >> dose not work against op's >> >> regards >> kevin >> >> ps if you do not remember, the above was added to help >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Padre-dev mailing list >> Padre-dev@perlide.org >> http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > Padre-dev mailing list > Padre-dev@perlide.org > http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev >
Hi Sewi The ability to ban, was added for completeness, so we would be able to deal with a situation WHEN it happens. As for the Welcome I am now thinking along the lines of Padre Birthday +/- 1 day, for all nicks expect op's. we will still Welcome user_nick and mib_nick though and all nick changes the issue is trying to get the balance between, new users (first time on IRC) and existing. regards kevin _______________________________________________ Padre-dev mailing list Padre-dev@perlide.org http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev
