all viable PUSH solutions will do fine as soon as the pager solutions are
available (Q 3?). Keep an eye on Glenair and JPSystems for cost effective
solutions using the next generation of palm specific pager cards (the
orginal push device...) and info beam type solutions. Big Box wireless
solutions will NOT work on the palm, they just don't get it....
----- Original Message -----
From: Laurence Lundblade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Palm Developer Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Is it possible to push the data on PalmVII?
> Also don't discount the cellular telephony technologies. Many of the
> problems today are economic in nature. The big carriers don't see ways to
> make money with wireless data yet that really opens the service up to
folks
> like us, especially in this country. The big carriers are also hard to
work
> with in vertical spaces I expect.
>
> There are many technology solutions to current problems running in labs
> today based on cellular telephone technology. For example battery life is
> going to get better and better. CDMA has a dormant mode that allows you to
> have a quiescent IP connection that only brings up the wireless data
> channel when data is waiting on one end of the other and that solves the
> wireless part of the push problem.
>
> In terms of infrastructure build outs and economies of scale, the cellular
> technologies dwarf just about any other technology it's possible we'll be
> able to achieve much beter pricing. Even today the per-byte cost transfer
> via Sprint PCS is something like a tenth of the Palm VII cost.
>
>
> To answer Steve's point below:
> - I don't want ads pushed to me
> - I DO want stock alerts I configure on the server pushed to me
> - I don't want random email messages and pages pushed to me
> - I DO want filtered email pushed to me
>
> Push (Wired screwed up that word; can we find a better one) with control
on
> the server is power to the people, no?
>
> LL
>
>
> At 11:32 AM 4/20/00 -0400, Vineel Shah wrote:
> >I know that wireless is a fast-changing market. I'm hoping that Palm
> >changes it's wireless architecture quickly. And the Palm VII's problems
> >have nothing to do with current technology limits, and everything to do
> >with arbitrary limitations put on its design by Palm. But hey, it's a 1.0
> >product. I'm just hoping that 2.0 addresses these issues.
> >
> >And I know that I've said this before, but push has been incredibly
> >successful in the wireless information appliance market. Pagers are all
> >push and have become ubiquitous. Mobile phones are half push and have
> >become ubiquitous. If Palm wants the same level of success, they're
going
> >to have to take push into account.
> >
> >At 01:44 AM 4/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Vineel Shah wrote:
> >>
> >> > 2. I _am_ saying that the Palm VII wireless architecture makes sense
only
> >> > for a very small portion of what we're going to want to do with
wireless.
> >> > Ok, it lets us query the web for information. But it doesn't let us
send
> >> > important breaking information to the user. (How do I know to query
for a
> >> > "server is down!" message?
> >>
> >>This is a very arbitrary and short sited statement based on current
> >>technology. Wireless is a very fast changing market. Also
> >>when broad band comes in, there is going to be a lot of changes. What I
> >>have seen of push both on the desktop and wireless has
> >>been a miserable failure. In fact, I have refused consulting for two
> >>companies seeing that they view this new technology as just
> >>another electronic printing press. Power to the people! :)
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
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