In order to reduce the optionality, can we say:

- PAA MUST send lifetime (when infinity, it can send maxint).
- PaC SHOULD initiate re-auth before lifetime expires. A "should" because
PaC may choose not to extend the authorization. Or we can make it a must
with a conditional "if PaC wants to extend....".
- PAA MAY initiate re-auth. Now, this one does not have to be related to
lifetime expiry, given that we put that burden on the PaC. 

Does this make sense?

Alper




> -----Original Message-----
> From: MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:43 PM
> To: Alper Yegin; [email protected]
> Subject: [Pana] PAA initiating Re-authentication
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In section 5.7 Session Lifetime, it is stated:
> 
> "The PAA MUST initiate the re-authentication phase before the current
> session lifetime expires."
> 
> I can't figure out why there is a "MUST" in that case.
> 
> As documented in the draft,
> 
> - The session lifetime is not negociable between the PAA and the PaC.
> - The session lifetime may be sent to the PaC. If not, the PaC considers
> the PANA session as unlimited.
> - Both PaC and PAA may initiate a re-authentication procedure regardless
> of the session lifetime.
> 
> Could we just have the following principles:
> 
> - If the session lifetime is sent to the PaC:
> The PaC should re-authenticate before the expiration of the session
> lifetime. Otherwise, the session is deleted by the PAA at the expiration
> of the session lifetime (and the PaC will purge related local state).
> The PAA may initiate a re-authentication procedure before the expiration
> of the session lifetime. Otherwise, the session is deleted by the PAA at
> the expiration of the session lifetime (and the PaC will purge related
> local state).
> Both PaC and PAA may initiate a re-authentication procedure regardless of
> the session lifetime.
> 
> - If the session lifetime is sent to the PaC:
> The PAA may initiate a re-authentication procedure before the expiration
> of the session lifetime. Otherwise, the session is deleted at the
> expiration of the session lifetime.
> Both PaC and PAA may initiate a re-authentication procedure regardless of
> the session lifetime.
> 
> 
> With these principles, it is up to the PaC to maintain active its PANA
> session when infomed by the network (PAA) of the authorized session
> lifetime.
> There is no strong requirement for the PAA/network point of view to . It
> is therefore up to the network operator to configure the PAA expected
> behaviour.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Lionel
> 
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Alper Yegin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Envoyé : jeudi 5 avril 2007 10:06
> > À : [email protected]
> > Objet : [Pana] Review pana-pana-15a
> >
> >
> > PANA specification is reviewed based on the last round of AD
> > comments (thanks Yoshi!).
> >
> > The spec is here:
> >
> > http://www.panasec.org/docs/editing/draft-ietf-pana-pana-15a.txt
> >
> > And it's diff with the version that predates last round of AD comments
> > (-13):
> >
> > http://www.panasec.org/docs/editing/draft-ietf-pana-pana-15a-f
> > rom-3.diff.htm
> > l
> >
> > Please review the document and register your feedback by the
> > end of April 12, Thursday.
> >
> > Upon collecting and resolving any issues, the document will
> > proceed to IETF last call.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Alper
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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