There was an excellent discussion of this topic on this morning's Diane Rehm show with a number of folks including Alan Paller from SANS. I think it makes good distinction with some of the two different parts of the discussion and highlights how that kind of attack is taking place and they even go over some of the past attacks that I was not aware of. You can listen to the show from this morning at http://wamu.org/audio/dr/10/01/r1100114-30850.asx if you want to hear their discussion on it.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected]> wrote: > The media, and maybe Google themselves, are lumping the censorship and > the hacking incident together as a reason to pull out but I don't see > how the two are related. Whether or not they are in China they can > still be targets of Chinese hackers. There is some evidence that the > current lot were going after the accounts of Chinese users but other > companies, such as Adobe, were also attacked so it wasn't all about > one Chinese group attacking another. > > Am I missing something? > > Robin > > 2010/1/14 Michael Miller <[email protected]>: >> I have the same view. They will try to deflect any blame for any >> attack on western corporations. They might raise a stink for a little >> bit. It will be interesting to see what happens to google, if they >> close up shop or raid the google data center. >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM, iamnowonmai <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Like it or not they need us to buy their stuff. I don't see them doing a >>> damn thing personally >>> >>> Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>It will be interesting to see what China does. They could just take >>>>over Google.cn and seize the server farm as state property. It might >>>>make other companies think twice about doing business in China. >>>> >>>>-mmiller >>>> >>>>On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Karl Schuttler >>>><[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> In case you didn't see >>>>> it... http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html >>>>> >>>>> "We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our >>>>> results >>>>> on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with >>>>> the >>>>> Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered >>>>> search >>>>> engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean >>>>> having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China." >>>>> Karl >>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Robert Portvliet >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope Google pulls out of China... but before they do make every >>>>>> search return >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989 >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Adrian Crenshaw <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > Odd, to quote the email: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Technology Alert >>>>>> > from The Wall Street Journal >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Google said it is "reviewing the feasibility of our business operations >>>>>> > in >>>>>> > China" and may back out of China entirely, as it disclosed it had been >>>>>> > hit >>>>>> > with major cyberattacks it believes originated from the country. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In a blog post, Google said it detected a "highly sophisticated and >>>>>> > targeted >>>>>> > attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China" in >>>>>> > mid-December and that the attack resulted in "the theft of intellectual >>>>>> > property from Google." >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126333757451026659.html?mod=djemalertTECH >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Since the WSJ wants you to pay, see: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I hope they cover this on ISD tonight. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Adrian >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>> > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Robert Portvliet, >>>>>> GPEN, Security + >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>[email protected] >>>>http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Pauldotcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
